Hi Stephen,

What can I do to start getting things going in a new direction. The advantage 
with Linode is that then I can give access to multiple individuals to access 
the linode manager and other aspects of the server.

Are we going to go forward with this change? I am very willing to sponsor all 
this.

On 13/12/2018, 18:38, "Stephen Houston" <[email protected]> wrote:

    A few months ago Mike set up  a test instance of gitlab on a server for
    us... After testing and the like, I set up a slowvote on Phab that covered
    4 options:
    
    Gitlab with new infra
    Gitlab with current infra
    Phab with new infra
    Phab with current infra
    
    The overwhelming support was for new infra.  As in every single vote except
    for one wanted new infra.  The majority also wanted gitlab, but for the
    sake of this email, that is irrelevant.
    
    The arguments against new infra, having it sponsored, cloud, etc... keep
    being that if someone leaves the project, or the owners of the servers
    changes, or policies change, or etc... that we might lose access.  To me
    this seems like an incredibly poor argument right now especially
    considering that we have been experiencing this very thing and even worse
    with our own current infra.  The problems I have seen are that we:
    
    A. Failed at maintaining the physical aspects of our server.
    B. Keep having continued downtime over and over and over again.
    C. Can never get in touch with or get a response from our server admin in
    any kind of remotely adequate timeframe.
    
    Insanity is often said to be defined as doing the same thing over and over
    again expecting a different result.  It is time to have an open mind to the
    needs/wants of this community and make a change.
    
    Stephen
    
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