On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 16:58:12 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > On 8/12/22 11:02, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:18:32 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > > > >> On 6/20/22 16:23, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:46:15 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > >>> > >>>> On 6/10/22 10:22, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 08:45:44 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > >>>>> > >>>>>> On 6/9/22 23:53, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 22:41:08 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 12:16, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 10:41:25 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 6/9/22 09:55, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 19:50:27 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/8/22 19:17, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 8 Jun 2022 15:39:17 +0200 leoutat...@gmx.fr said: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> actually wait - is this a laptop? or using ddc? dimming timeout > >>>>>>>>>>>>> set? then the 30 sec may be the dimming timeout. e will run a > >>>>>>>>>>>>> timer after that that then totally blanks the screen. this timer > >>>>>>>>>>>>> is cancelled when the screensaver is cancelled (when the screen > >>>>>>>>>>>>> dims the screen is basically in screensaver mode) > >>>>>>>>>>>> It's just a laptop > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ok - that explains the 30 sec then - that's the dimming timeout. > >>>>>>>>>>> does the screen dim automatically after 30 sec of idle input? > >>>>>>>>>> No, screen doesn't dim after 30 sec of idle input. > >>>>>>>>>> Screen blanks after 2 minutes (according to settings), but > >>>>>>>>>> sometimes, maybe once a day, it doesn't blank at all. If i restart > >>>>>>>>>> e, it blanks normally. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> that's odd. screen should dim. you have backlight support? does it > >>>>>>>>> work manually with the gadget? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Yes that's odd...I have backlight support and gadget in shelf. See > >>>>>>>> settings in attached file > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> so backlight controls work? you can manually change brightness? does > >>>>>>> the backlight dim after 30 sec of no input if you leave things idle? > >>>>>>> btw your normal backlight is 5% .. that's really odd.... it should be > >>>>>>> HIGHER than the dim level of 30%... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I set backlight higher than dim level, and dim works now. > >>>>>> Maybe this explains why, sometimes, blanking doesn't work, but it > >>>>>> happens randomly... > >>>>> > >>>>> well now you at least have saner backlight settings (these are not > >>>>> defaults > >>>>> - the defaults are 100% and 30% for normal and dim levels). the first > >>>>> thing you should look for is if the screen dims after 30 sec od idle - > >>>>> if it does then screensaver is then activating. e uses the x screensaver > >>>>> notify event fromto dim the backlight (and screensaver deactivate to > >>>>> un-dim (go back to bright)). once idle e runs a timer that then waits > >>>>> for "the rest of the time" until the screen needs to go blank. so if dim > >>>>> timeout is 30 sec, and blanking time is 2 min, then e runs a timer for > >>>>> 1.5min. when this timer is hit then e will "fade to blank" and fade out > >>>>> the rest of the backlight to off too. x's dpms timeouts are set to > >>>>> expire a little bit after this "fade to black" (about 10 seconds after > >>>>> as you can see in xset's dpms settings) so the screen will completely > >>>>> power off then (but will appear black by this point). > >>>>> > >>>>> so the first thing to do is to notice... is the dimming happening? if it > >>>>> is not then there is a problem earlier on with screensaver notify events > >>>>> not happening. that means either the x screensaver has been suspended in > >>>>> some way (it was totally turned off - some apps go mess with screensaver > >>>>> settings - xset q will tell you if screensaver is on or off and the > >>>>> timeout) and some apps may take a screensaver "block" from x and ask it > >>>>> to temporarily suspend the screensaver. chromium and chrome based > >>>>> browsers will do this when playing videos - sometimes ads on a web page > >>>>> can cause this if they play videos. youtube does it... the best way to > >>>>> eliminate this is to close your browser and see if the problem > >>>>> continues. steam will also kill off blanking even if it just runs as a > >>>>> service in the background and no game is running. this s an ongoing > >>>>> issue with sdl/steam actively trying to keep the screen alive. in git i > >>>>> just added support for a dbus service used by some other wm's and de's > >>>>> that does the same as the x screensaver suspend/block feature - but > >>>>> it's asking whoever runs the dbus service to suspend > >>>>> blanking/screensaver - in this case e will advertise this service and > >>>>> it gets the requests. now e knows who asked to block the screensaver > >>>>> and will list who asked in a submenu of the main e menu under "blanking > >>>>> block". some apps will prefer to use this dbus service instead of the x > >>>>> screensaver suspend extension feature, thus it may help identify the > >>>>> problem too. you can remove that blank clock by just selecting it in > >>>>> the menu and e will remove that blocker. like here: > >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-62a2fefb1df8c2.44000455.png > >>>> > >>>> I use last e and efl git master versions but this function is not > >>>> available for me > >>> > >>> that menu only appears if some application has used the screensaver > >>> suspend dbus api that i added recently to e. if no one used the api then > >>> that menu will not be there. i do see chromium uses it if it is there. if > >>> it's not there 9the dbus api) then browsers seem to use the x screensaver > >>> extension to suspend blanking. > >>> > >> Enlightenment blanking issue appears after watching Twitter video inside > >> Firefox, even after closing Twitter window. > >> But not for all Twitter videos: sometimes blanking works normally, > >> sometimes not... > > > > if e has disabled blanking itself due to a dbus call like above (to inhibit > > blanking) then you will see from 'set q': > > > > Screen Saver: > > prefer blanking: yes allow exposures: yes > > timeout: 0 cycle: 0 > > > > when blanking is on again you will see: > > > > Screen Saver: > > prefer blanking: yes allow exposures: yes > > timeout: 1800 cycle: 0 > > > > or some timeout number that is more than 0. if there is anything in in the > > "Blanking Block" submenu of e's main menu - then something has asked to > > block blanking (e.g. your web browser). if there is nothing in that menu > > then nothing has asked to do this. you should see the xset q output show a > > timeout that is more than 0 like above. > > > > remember that ANY x client can change screensver timeout - not just q. so > > this is not a guarantee that e is messing up and not setting this right - > > some other client might. steam certainly likes to play with screensaver > > timeout. > > > > if the screensaver timeout is more than 0 and the screen doesn't blank, then > > the problem is probably because some client is using the xscreensaver > > library to inhibit suspending. clients do this directly to the xserver. the > > wm is not involved. the only way to release this screensaver inhibiting is > > for the client that requested it to release it OR to kill/close that > > client. my guess is your problem lies with firefox. the best test is - > > kill/close firefox (actually kill/close all x apps/clients other than e) > > and if the screen starts blanking again - then you know your problem is one > > of these apps/clients. set your screen blank timeout to something very > > short like 0.1 minutes in e and test this. that's how i've figured out all > > the blanking problems and that they are all seemingly coming from web > > browsers these days and them having video content (n youtube or even in > > advertisements and other content you don't realize is a video). web > > browsers only recently started inhibiting screen suspending (in the last > > year or 2 or so). before that the big culprits were steam and games and > > they have their own bugs related to this too. > > > > This issue doesn't happen with other wm like e16 or xfce, even if > firefox stays on twitter video. > With these wm, blanking is disabled only if video is playing. If i stop > video, blanking works again.
still a browser problem - close browser and blanking starts again. problem is in the browser. who knows what logic the browser has but if closing it brings blanking back ... it's the browser. pretty simple. :) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
