On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 10:44:59PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:43:03 +0000 Lut!n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > 2006/11/24, Falko Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > Hi all, > > ok- some summary. > > 1. e.org pages have not been updated or maintained because we > anticipated a while back moving to a new webserver, website and a need > to redo ALL the website. no need to go create content we just need to > redo again. this has unfortunately been delayed an taken a lot longer > that thought. we are still waiting. > > 2. packages of e17. e17 is unreleased. we do not encourage you to go > put packages in debian or ubuntu - why? you will piss us off as users > will just come back to use complaining about bugs or missing features > when we are not done. it doesn't matter what policies you have or how > many lines of documentation say not to bother us - they will. they > will waste our time and patience. we do NOT want e in official debian > repositories. it just will mean a tonne of support we already don't > have time for. > > if you want e development to halt - then go ahead. but likely it will > mean just that. users are a burden if you are not prepared for them - > and we sure as hell are not. they will not be god users and contact > debian support mechanisms - they will come back to us. > > if you want to do packages - put them in a separate apt repository - > make it harder to get to. this will minimise the impact. > I totally agree here. I've got many people using my repository who report issues to me directly - which is good - but still many who report them in IRC as well. What about a Debian postinst warning telling people to stay clear of feature requests and bug reports for packages on my repository?
Anyways - I won't urge to put packages in Sid without your approval, that's for sure. > as for working together - i absolutely think you should - ubunutu and > debian basically are the same (from an e perspective anyway) and there > is little use it duplicating most of the packaging work :) > Yup, good that I asked. I didn't know there was an alioth project around already :) Falko > > > > > Hi Falko , > > > > as some of you might have noticed, I'm trying to help out by adding > > and > > > fixing Debian packaging information in CVS since about eight > > > months. Meanwhile I took over Blake's Debian repository on > > > edevelop.org which now supports i386, AMD64, alpha and Sparc. > > > > Some days ago Jan Christoph Nordholz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > offered me to have E17 uploaded to Debian Sid via his sponsor who > > > could sign the packages for us. > > > > As there's still time before Etch will be released he will help me > > to > > > make the packages compliant to the Debian policy. > > > > > > Are there any objections from the E17 Team? > > > > > > I am the maintainer of the ubuntu repo hosted on edevelop, and with > > Maxence Dunnewind (Sp4rKy), Daniele Favara (nomed) and Blake, we've > > created a team on alitoh whose goal is to build up a debian tree for > > e17 that matches the debian policy. We are not listed on the debian > > packaging staff on enlightenment.org (the page seems outdated btw), > > but we've been working quite hard to make a clean debian tree. > > Usually, integration of such projects are made through teams, and > > teams are usually on alioth. There were many people packaging e17 > > for debian finally, and it makes sense to merge our energies. Please > > have a look at http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-e/ . We'd be > > happy if you want to join us in the team, and on #pkg- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], so we can make something good all together :) > > > > Furthermore I'd like to know if people mentioned in the 'Porting and > > > Package Team' section on enlightenment.org are still active in > > > regards of Debian packages. > > > > I don't want to step on anyone's toes, so it'd be nice if people > > tell me > > > if they don't like me messing around in their debian/ directories > > > :) > > > > > > Falko > > > > > > Greets, Albin Tonnerre (Lutin), in behalf of the pkg-e team. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
