On 11/12/2007 19:07, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:33:24 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> I report this here instead of the bug tracker, because I like to discuss
>> it.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> 1) start 'emotion_test'
>> 2) Remember->Advanced (Activate all 'remember using' and 'properties to
>> remember' fields) 
>> 3) Pin to desktop => border is removed and window is
>> below all other windows 
>> 4) restart E17
>> 5) window is still below all others and border is now visible
> 
> can't reproduce - border stays off. window is below etc. etc.

I can reproduce this behavior.  I spent two minutes on it last night but
was not feeling well.  I'll fix this evening.

> 
>> So what do you define the action 'Pin to desktop' should do?
>>
>> This behavior is some ways not logic. The border menu itself is in a
>> complete mess if you ask me. It's much to complicate.
> 
> agred there. its too long and needs a refactor. if someone wants to refactor
> it and make it a bit better organised - maybe make commonly used items in he
> main and put the rest of the details in submenus - please do. otherwise i'll
> leave it until later to do that.
> 
>> Some menu entries are not so often used. (my personal opinion)
>> - Window properties
>> - kill
>> - window locks
>> - border
>> - Skip (as you often use it only one and them remember it)
>> - Remember (as you often use it once for an application)
>> - create icon (as you often use it once for an application)
>>
>> What's about moving those to an 'Advanced' sub menu? The window menu is
>> useless (for me) if I need to search the entries. And on screens with
>> low resolution you loose a lot of useful space.
>>
>> Another solution would be to implement a smart logic that displays only
>> the items that are used 'often' and hides the advanced menus behind a
>> '...' entry that unfolds if you press it. Like you know it from
>> 'popular' windows products. But I'm not sure about the usability of
>> such a solution.
> 
> there is a hug debate on if that is a good idea or not in usability circles.
> some say it is, some say it isnt. for now we can save a lot of code and work
> by just not doing this and simply improve the border menu layout.
>  
>> regards
>> Andreas
>>
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Regards,
Eric


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