Stefan Schmidt wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 11:59, Christopher Michael wrote:
>> I've talked w/ raster last night & stefan_schmidt today about redoing 
>> the network module for E. Ideally, we would like todo a network frontend 
>> that is capable of utilizing various backends (e_nm, conman, etc, etc).
> 
> ACK.
> Also exalt people wpuld be welcome. They already have some experience with
> network management in E.
> 

Certainly :)

>> Stefan expressed interest in this and is willing to work on the e_nm 
>> backend a bit more, which is great.
> 
> The reason why this has slkipped is that I left OpenMoko and thus
> doing this no longer as my work job. After the leaving I needed some
> time for relaxing.
> 
Hehehehe, no problem :) We all need time to relax now and again.

> I'll continue my work on e_nm on private base as I like to have in in
> E for other use cases anyway. :)
> 
> Will take lo nger as fun project, but will make progress. I think I
> can start to clean up the current mess I have right now at the end of
> may and start working on it on mid june again.
> 
Sounds good. We're not trying to rush this...wanna take our time here 
and get things right.

>> The front end should be able to be configured to handle various
>> network cards & backends, ideally allowing the user to switch between
>> any device and/or backend easily.
> 
> Multiple devices is nice. Not a must for the start IMHO, but nice
> for later use cases.
> 
No, not a must have for the start, but certainly something to keep in 
mind during development.

> Switching betwenn different backends needs some thinking. Do you
> like to be able to do this on-the-fly and expect everything to work?
Ideally, yes.

> Or some kind of configuration for the backend that will go live
> after at the next start of the manager?
> 
I suppose that would be acceptable also.

>> I think what we need at this stage (planning), along with other
>> things, is different UI ideas. What would people like to see in
>> terms of frontend ? 
> 
> Sounds good. Some first ideas:
> o Gadget for the shelf to show signal strength for wifi, gsm/3g
>   and indicates what kind of connection is used atm.
Agreed.

> o Click on the gadget shows available wifi networks, and other
>   network connections like ethernet (Only with connected cable?) and
>   wireless broadband modems.
Agreed.

> o Some kind of advanced settings UI. Handling stored connections,
>   set IP address, stuff for complicated wifi setup, etc.. Not sure
>   how connected this should be to the gadget.
> 
Well, should at least be accessible from the menu somehow. Perhaps under 
a Configuration entry.

> Just a *very* short list of stuff. I like a lot of the nm-applet
> stuff, but there are things that can be improved.
> 
> I'll send a longer list with ideas for the UI in some days. To
> tired today.
> 
No Problem :)

dh

>> Is there a general consensus as to which backends should be supported ? 
> 
> I can work on e_nm. Not yet looked on connman. Still on my todo,
> but never came to it. Anyone else did this already?
> 
> Then we have exalt. Are the devs interested in such an idea?
> 
>> Can anyone provide an objective pros/cons on the various backends ?
> 
> I can do this for e_nm in my later mail.
> 
> regards
> Stefan Schmidt
> 

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