----- "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:

> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:00 AM, Sebastian Dransfeld
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Jose Gonzalez wrote:
> >>   Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jose Gonzalez wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>    Gustavo wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 8:15 AM, John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>        ... by adding 3 callbacks to viewport->event and
> connecting
> >>>>>>        them back to the original callbacks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> nobody replied to this in a while, so I commited to ETK as it
> seems
> >>>>> to work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for the patch and sorry taking so long to commit.
> >>>>>
> >>>>    Since my retiring from work on evas, I took a better look at
> etk..
> >>>> and
> >>>> I have to say that there's a lot that could be done to it, not
> only
> >>>> fixes,
> >>>> but also major internal refactoring, some api changes, and more
> >>>> 'basic' stuff.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Then you should also realise that etk is a dead end, and no one
> is
> >>> going to do any major work on it. Don't waste your time.
> >>>
> >>> Sebastian
> >>>
> >>
> >>   Really? That's quite severe.. especially since much of this
> >> stuff is fairly straightforward to accomplish.
> >>   What makes you state with such certainty that "etk a dead end"
> >> just because some refactoring and improvements could be
> >> made to greatly improve the lib? Or do you mean it might
> >> be better to start with a new code base?
> >
> > As it is now, none of the main developers are using time on etk,
> and
> > raster and Gustavo have their own widget libraries
> (elementary/guarana).
> 
> do not consider elementary and guarana separate entities, they're for
> now, but we'll merge soon, just need time, but xmas is there for this
> kind of thing ;-)  Probably we'll make adapt grn_widget and
> grn_edje_widget as the basics and move elm widgets on top of it, then
> drop guarana_widgets, guarana will continue as other libraries that
> do
> not contain widgets. But even before that, being simple smart objects
> make it easier to merge, including with esmart.
> 
> 
> > The design of these widget libraries differ from etk, as they are
> 100%
> > evas centric and use smart objects heavily.
> 
> yes, and I really think this is way better, both for library
> developers and users.
> 
> 
> > The only work done on etk is small fixes to keep it usable.
> 
> and this is mostly dave because he is using for edje_editor...
> however
> I see Dave moving to elementary once we have what he needs. and we're
> not far.

Indeed, etk is not well designed and I hape Elementary can begun the 'official'
toolkit.

> 
> 
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