> There was a systray mention on there a while ago... maybe it was a
> different TODO list. Added in modules-extra for now.
>
ok. thx.
 
> > 3) annoying question related to the "color and font config modules". as
> > it was mentioned by Raster:
> >
> >>thats what i meant - just wouldn't compile the color and font config 
> >>modules.
> >>they they wont appear anywhere. code will be there - just not being 
> >>compiled or
> >>used until its fixed.
> >
> > ok. but does it mean that all themes/(.edj files) which use custom fonts
> > and/or "color_class:"-es will require maintenance? if "Yes!", then
> > suppose that the info should be spread all over the community or only new
> > default theme will remain usable (it's a nice option, but some may
> > prefer other variants).
> >
> 
> I think scraping the modules to config it would be good, but leave the
> support for it via enlightenment_remote would be good as well. If
> anyone was keen, they could revamp it and reintroduce into a major
> release eg, E17.1. That way, we dont need to alter themes, and if you
> really want, just include a brief howto in the theme about. Kind of
> like what i did with Cerium.
>
please read this thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg20486.html
and your response unfortunately doesn't answer the question: "does it
mean that all themes/(.edj files) which use custom fonts  and/or 
"color_class:"-es will require maintenance?" the "milestone" left this
point as pending (optional). just suppose that clarification is needed.
 
> > 6) as i mentioned in trac ticket #201 the "gap" exist in a window
> > management between E16/eesh and E17/enlightenment_remote. it could be
> > nice to eliminate this "mismatch" especially for the experienced Users
> > of E16.
> >
> 
> Like buying a new TV, you need to learn the new remote. :)
>
the question is not in "learning a new remote" unfortunately. it's more 
related to the "should we buy this new TV or let's look at another one?" 
just for fun you can read trac ticket #201 and try to make the same trick 
with E17. should i prepare the draft of a "Comparison Table" and outline 
the "mismatches" in general? just assumed that we're all here know a bit 
about the "roots" and no such things are needed.

frankly speaking it doesn't matter will the same functions (like "eesh"
has) work with "enlightenment_remote" or via "qdbus" (we're usind dbus
now, right?). but i guess that a simple questions like "How many
windows/apps are running under E?" should have an answer readable in
your terminal app. "eesh" has a clear answer: "eesh window_list". that's
it.
 
> What we SHOULD
> worry about, is the cross themeing of E with EWL and ETK. It is all
> very possible, but as a themer yourself, its quite tedious to add the
> other parts and duplicate and so on. We could of course, investigate
> making the toolkits (Or toolkit) work with edje parts from an E theme.
>
nice point. agree with you. but... let's say that IMHO - ETK has a
stable API and a bunch of a software which work for my Linux and
OpenBSD. EWL is constantly evolving and assume that the "Ephoto" app is 
the only one in a "pure EWL basket" (plus "Elitaire"?).

also "elementary" is coming, right?

that's why all my modest .edj files contain E17 + ETK only. and the
final question is:

- several "unified" themes exist (yep, i created the first one... my fault).
  can we expect a "unified switcher" to control the look of E17, ETK and
  EWL from a single location/app?

regards,
sda

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