Hey,

Le jeudi 3 septembre 2009, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri a écrit :
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Laszlo
>
> KREKACS<[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Laszlo
> >
> > KREKACS<[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> If it helps, I can contact shr developers, and
> >>>> ask for the specific build error message.
> >>>
> >>> that would help.
> >>
> >> Ok, I'll contact them, and report here.
> >
> > It seems they have problem with webkit-efl, as it is huge, etc.
> >  git clone git://gitorious.org/webkit-efl/webkit-efl.git
> >
> > I have successfully installed it on my phone, using Heiderdvm's
> > repository from here:
> > http://heinervdm.dyndns.info/shr/
> >
> >> I want to use it primary for gmail. Gmail has an excellent iphone
> >> interface. It works fine in firefox and arora. But not in midori (or
> >> woosh). Here is a screenshot:
> >> http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/iphone_new.png
> >
> > Ok, some experiences:
> >
> > Negatives:
> > 1. no preferences, when I click on it, it says:
> > Error Number: 8 while loading the group 'webkit/widget/combo'.
> > TODO: enter contig mode.
>
> the first message is something else, but the last says it all "TODO" :-)

Yes, Eve needs some work...

> > 2. No way to change user agent string (no settings)
> >
> > 3. gmail.com, mail.google.com does not get loaded.
> > (google.com works fine)
> > It stays blank, or nothing happens.
>
> weird, works here, I just did a screenshot, see:
> http://staff.get-e.org/~barbieri/eve-gmail.png
Gmail is using ssl, so there must be an issue with curl/openssl installed on 
your system. Your libcurl have to be compiled with openssl and all root 
certificates need to be installed (in /etc/ssl/certs/). With that you can go on 
all https websites with good certificates. For all https websites with faulty 
certs (self-signed certs), webkit-efl won't load them. To force eve to load 
them 
you need to start eve with: WEBKIT_IGNORE_SSL_ERRORS=1 eve

> > 4. Extremely small fonts and buttons on the addressbar
>
> That addressbar is a hack using new edje TEXT with editable set, why a
> hack? because it does not limit the viewport and provides a scroller,
> so text will just overflow if url is too big or window is too small.
> Going elementary there is much better. Actually raster already said
> he'd like an optional elm_webkit to nicely integrate.
Default theme probably needs work to fit small screens.

> > 5. No finger scrolling, it selects text instead:
> > http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/eve_select_text_instead_scrolling.p
> >ng
>
> It was removed in favor of webkit's own finger scrolling, AFAIK you
> need to enable it during compile time.
No, we need to implement it in eve using hooks provided by webkit-efl and 
mouse_down/up/move events:

EWebKit_Hit_Test_Contents contents;
ewk_webframe_object_hit_test(webframe, &contents, dx - ox, dy - oy);
ewk_webframe_object_scroll(contents.frame, x, y);

> > 6. No way to zoom the webpage easily. I would like a +,-
> > button.
>
> svn up and you should have Ctrl+"-" or "=" as well as Ctrl + mouse
> wheel to change zoom :-)

Something like double-tap could be great to zoom in/out.

> > 7. no way to panning the webpage (also see 5., no finger scrolling)
> >
> > 8. The gui elements are not transparent. (so occupy screen space)
>
> Just having them to be transparent will not help that much, My idea is
> to, one day, have the toolbar to become smaller when you mouse out of
> it. but it being transparent and over the page implies that one will
> always have something overlaid on top of page, possibly loosing the
> first line of text.

Eve needs a better theme to fit small screen and dektop one. Also the default 
one 
is too much "yet another web browser". With edje with could do something really 
amazing.

> > Positives:
> > 1. Normal webpages displays more or less correctly.
> > Here is a screenshot:
> > http://laszlo.krekacs.googlepages.com/eve_running.png
> >
> > 2. It is amazingly fast. Really. It loads a webpage like the
> > above under 3 sec from the web. And displays the webpage
> > all at once. Without any rendering glitch.
> >
> :-)
> :
> > Summary:
> > With some minor gui tweaking and adding nice gui elements
> > here and there, and also fixing the user agent string
> > that browser would be usable in real world too.
> >
> >
> > What can I help:
> > Other than ideas, I can come app with mockup images.
> > I can also implement my idea in a .edc file and write a
> > demo python file which can launch it.
>
> EWK api is so small you could do python bindings for it and write your
> initial code/mockups in Python. :-)


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Raoul Hecky



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