On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:02:16 +1030 Samuel Nicholas <nicholas.sam...@gmail.com> > said: > >> I want to help but can only provide opinion :\ >> Just going through the website pages from left to right things that I notice >> >> 1. The sub menu items at the top left under the main menu (small grey >> text links) really don't catch the eye at all. >> Their fine for further technical information, but wouldn't put any >> marketing information behind them as they are likely to be missed. > > been saying this for a long time. i'm killing them off beyond having anecdotal > extra info in them for those that dig deep - no interesting/normal "marketing" > info will be there. thus why e16 now is just that sub-link. it's not a > "marketing focus". EVERYTHING has to be in the top level tabs/pages. no sub > pages. people just dont bother going there. i agree. I even remarked them 1 month ago only... >> 2. The download section doesn't have the windows binaries under the >> unofficial packages section. >> infact that section could just link directly to >> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/E17BinaryPackages > > download needs doing. so far i've done main page and am in the middle of > fixing > up the about page. will work my way along. windows binaries though are on the > lower end of priorities. Windows port is even not finished, so... I try to provide installers when i think that there are some good improvements in them >> 3. Why does the support page even exist, it seems like duplicate >> information and even links to the old wiki. >> A clearer way to present the topic of support would be to split the >> page (horizontally into columns following the style of the main page) >> and have "user support" which could let you subscribe to the user >> mailing list, link to relevant trac wiki pages, and forum, >> exchange.enlightenment.org, etc. and then "developer support" with >> similar mailing list links, developer doc links, and even show >> companies who provide consulting services. > > yes. needs cleaning up. remove it and put informations in other links. There are too much entries in the menu. >> 4. Contributing also needs some love, >> links to pages that do it better(imho): >> http://www.blender.org/development/ http://www.gimp.org/develop/ >> http://fedoraproject.org/join-fedora (although the links on that page >> are broken) >> The theme i see on these pages is the idea of breaking the >> "contributing" task into skill tasks that people may have, then >> providing them with short destription of the task before linking them >> to tutorials on how to begin. >> Now I don't really expect the e community to have so much time to >> write up those tutorial pages, but short description and a few >> specific links is doable. > > sure. as above. getting there. remove the "Contributing" word and add subsections for each parts, like: * Svn [put what is in svn.enlightenment.org here, without the dependencies list] * Browsing the repository * Reporting bugs It is not needed to mention doc and wiki there. Imho, it must be simple and clear, so that people just go to the subsection quickly by just looking at them. Vurrently, People have to read the entire text to understand what to do. >> 6. The craziest issue I believe is the spread of the documentation, >> * the old wiki - which has too many links going to it > > it needs killing off. just want to remove links to it in the end. links in the old wiki must be removed when a page have been moved to the trac wiki. >> some thoughts on possible solutions >> * have the trac wiki as the page that "docs" goes to and make the main >> trac wiki page as appealing as the current docs page, > > need to account for auto-generated docs. trac cant handle it. http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/DoxygenPlugin ? >> 7. just noticed that you have two news pages, one in the trac and one >> on the main title that are different..... could be amalgamated. > > that needs to go. trac news isnt used. are you sure ? I use it, Gustavo too. Planet is also used but it is not mentioned in the web site. Vincent ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Return on Information: Google Enterprise Search pays you back Get the facts. http://p.sf.net/sfu/google-dev2dev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
