Disclaimer: 12 hrs into a wine tour/night on the town. Respondant is
intoxicated.


I think its more about reducing the basic package to whats 'needed' by
the average user. It becomes a grey area because E reaches across a
broad spectrum of devices... Whats the target user? If we know what
that is, what should then be in the basic package. I know there is a
mobile usage camp and a desktop usage camp, which i think is awesome
:) but i think the user base would be desktop right now. As such, it
should be more desktop orientated, imho. I know theres a mild push to
keep the basic tarball on release down to a minimum... (hence my
recent png squish.)

Toma...


On 3/20/10, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:35:33 +0100 Thomas Gstädtner <[email protected]>
> said:
>
>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 17:25, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Tom Haste <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I agree on this. There are more useful modules to most users in
>> >> E-MODULES-EXTRAs that would be better suited to the main tarball...
>> >> like
>> >> calendar.
>> >
>> > Needless to say, I disagree with that.
>> >
>> > These are in the same class of "Mixer" or "Illume", they are or will
>> > be core functionality, even if you do not use them now, you might
>> > using it really soon as most systems start shipping with bluetooth (as
>> > it is the case) or 3g modems as lots of netbooks to come. And they are
>> > being officially included and maintained by me... so blame me at any
>> > problems, these modules should work, and work well.
>> >
>> > What we could do is disable their compilation by default. It would be
>> > the case for lots of modules, like all of the illume. This is not so
>> > good because bugs and warnings would not show and thus be fixed
>> > soon... the way raster likes to manage it :-)
>> >
>> > Alternatively, you can just disable these modules --disable-MODULENAME
>> > to save your build time.
>>
>> I think it should stay where it is and currently be built by defau alt.
>> When the release comes, it should not longer be built by default, so
>> packagers can chose if they want the features without explicitly
>> deactivating them (only the other way around). Same goes probably for
>> most non-trivial and non-shelf modules.
>
> why does it matter? these modules build only if edbus has the support. they
> are
> not loaded by default. now if edbus has the support - ofono and bluez are
> built by default - support for them in edbus anyway. and they have no
> dependencies. same with connman - and hal and notify. they arte there and
> provide features. building the modules for e is harmless. the real question
> is... should the be enabled by default, and if so, what default config, if
> any
> should they have etc.
>
>
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