Quoting "Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)" <ras...@rasterman.com>:

> On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Vincent Torri <vto...@univ-evry.fr>
> said:
>
>> > thought we were about there. i asked - you did not disagree or provide any
>> > information. what do you expect me to do? i did the right thing. i asked.
>> > you replied. you gave no list of things you are working on that need to be
>> > done by 1.0.0 alpha
>>
>> You're always right, of course... I'm fed up, do what you want, as always.
>
> well if this is how you see it - then not much i can do. there is 
> nothing i can
> do in such a situation. you will be upset no matter what is done unless you
> yourself determine everything, because you didn't share your objectives with
> everyone else.
>
> you're one of the few people who are actually reliable and 
> trustworthy. if you
> don't say you have something to do, i believe it. i'm not doing what 
> i want to
> do just because thats how i want it. i engaged the developers - both on email
> and irc - our primary communication mechanisms - you included. you 
> didn't miss
> the emails. you have a whole alpha phase to do things during (as long as they
> are not breaking api). this alpha won't be perfect. far from it.
>
> but i'm sad to see you upset at me, yet there is nothing i could have done to
> prevent it as the source of it all is yourself and your actions, so it's
> something you have to come to terms with. sorry. as i said - i trust 
> your word.
> you've earned that over the many years. :(

Yes, I'm upset, because, now, the development is a mess. You, the lead dev,
announce a release (which is great), but you accept that, after that announce,
plenty of people commit plenty of stuff, with maybe a broken API, not
respecting the implicit naming rule (like in eet, for example... But it's too
late now for this lib). Cedric finished his changes on edje yesterday (btw, is
it really finished, tested, etc... ?).

I would have preferred that kind of announce:

"Since 2 weeks, the points i mentioned (edje format, etc...) are now in 
svn. Do
you guys think that it's mature ? One week for testing and cleaning could be
sufficient. I plan a release one week"

Or something like that. And not annoucing the alpha release the day after the
last commit of cedric on the new edje format. I would have agreed without any
problem with that kind of announce. We wait for several years for a release.
One week to check the API and *potential big* problems after such a big change
like the new edje format is important.

That's my point of view

Vincent

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