Am 19.12.2010 04:51, schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman): > On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 17:14:02 +0100 Thomas Sachau <to...@gentoo.org> said: > >> Attached is a build log with the failures. > > ok. since your position is that tests should work even if u enable them and > they cant connect to a display, or that we need to go fine-graining tests just > so you can --enable things that you wouldn't understand were they to fail, > i've > decided to remove all tests from src trees.
I did not say exactly that. This is your view. I already told you, that packagers should test the package, before they add them and if upstream already has a test suite, it is the easiest way to test the package. As already said, tests should not require external services like X to run and if some tests need such a service, they should be skipped or there should be an option to skip them. And once you said, that those tests require an X server running as the same user, who does run the tests, i asked for making those tests optional, but at least you did not react to that reqest. > it seems gentoo (some) users and/or developers are unable to take the hint of > "you enabled tests manually yourself - they are never enabled unless you > explicitly enable them, then that makes it your problem". you shot yourself in > the foot and then ask us why it hurts. we get the build logs that told you the > problem (ecore_x_init fails - can't connect to a display somewhere) in the way > intended (for developers to run test suites to see if they broke something > fundamental while working on code), then that just wastes our time. See above for the tests requiring a running X server. Now, you removed the tests completly instead of adding an option to just skip the X-related tests. Also it does not seem like many devs actually used the ecore tests, now probably noone will use them and noone will find any issue with their usage. So in the end, it looks more like you did shoot yourself in the foot. > i'm grumpy because i tried to explain it the short way (on irc) "you enabled > tests - they fail. don't enable them. if u cant run them in their expected > test > env they will fail". that fell on deaf ears, so the tests are summarily > removed > out of the src trees. if anyone has an issue with it - talk to thomas and/or > gentoo developers. this week i replied to his issue twice. once in a trac > ticket and again here. A simple "those tests require running a X server as the same user" and adding a way to skip those would be faster, easier and better for everyone. -- Thomas Sachau Gentoo Linux Developer
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