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On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Albin Tonnerre wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Dec 2010 09:11 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote :
>> tests are for developpers, not packagers
>
> That is terribly wrong. Packagers care about testsuites for one simple reason:
> as thoroughly as developers may be testing the code, that will never guarantee
> proper behaviour on the system on which the code is built.

a test suite does not guarantee proper behavior. It's **unit** test suite. 
So only small parts of code are written. So a more complex code can have 
invalid results while the unit tests are running correctly

> When creating packages for Debian, I /do/ care about the testsuites because
> the testsuite not failing is the only reliable thing telling me the lib is not
> utterly broken on the system it is being built on.

packagers as well as users or developpers can run the tests. If the tests 
fail, then you can report a bug, with or without a patch. You do care. 
Good.

> I understand users not listening or unwilling to fix the suite to fit their
> needs is a pain, but let's not make it an even greater pain for people who 
> just
> want to use it and manage to. Things have improved a lot as far as packaging 
> is
> concerned in the last months, and this is clearly a step backwards.

keeping the unit tests inside the source code is a step backward ? Because 
that's what I want. Putting the unitt tests outside makes impossible (at 
least, i don't see anyway of doing that) coverage support. And that is for 
me a big step backward.

So i will revert raster's changes and put the tests again in the source 
code.

Vincent

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