On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:46:16 -0400 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:21 PM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > And as I've been told numerous times "a release is free".. what > > > is it that you lose when you do a release, what's so important > > > and critical about having a release ? > > > > API lock in. Configuration file compatibility lock in. These > > things are important if you actually like your users. Lock in is > > not free, it removes freedom. > > > Euhh, no, for sure a major version bump is not free, but a cyclic > release that doesn't break API/ABI or anything else, that's free, and > that's what I was referring to. First release, and this is what we are talking about for E17, is the one where you get locked in. > > > > i consider them a deal breaker :( a right now i want to not talk > > > > dates until > > > > AFTER efl 1.1. those dates will depend on if that gets a delay > > > > in it or what > > > > people do manage to do between now and then with e17. if that > > > > todo list still > > > > is no further along, then the timeframe has to be longer, if it > > > > is, then shorter. > > > > > > > Alright, *that* in my opinion is an actual compromise of the > > > subject discussed here (well, on the point I am making). No > > > problems, we can talk dates after efl 1.1, I am fine with that :) > > > > It's what was being said all along, by a few of us. Not a > > compromise at all, just the plan. There was no need to make a big > > drama about stuff to get to this point. lol > > > Well, if that was the plan, it was never said (to me anyways), this > is the first time it was said in this whole thread. Umm.. On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote: > if people WANT A RELEASE, THEN STEPUP AND DO SOMETHING! > > with those done then we can absolutely do an alpha (though it must > wait until after efl 1.1 which is now due in about 3 weeks). On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 4:42 AM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote: > The consensus does seem to be that there wont be an e17 release until > after the EFL 1.1 release anyway. The amount of passion and time we > are spending arguing over the exact timing of that e17 release could > be better spent actually working on that e17 TODO and the EFL release. > > How about we work on it, then see how much e17 TODO is left after the > EFL 1.1 release. That will be a better time to argue you case, when > it wont distract people from the work that needs to be done. Perhaps > by then it will be moot, and the TODO is completed. On Sunday, October 30, 2011, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > i'm working on the todo and efl 1.1 after efl 1.1 its e17 and elm > 1.0. e17 involves working on the tasks assigned. It's a very long thread, there are probably other mentions. You even quoted some of these yourself. You must have read them. B-) -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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