On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Christopher Michael <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: > On 12/27/11 21:42, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Christopher Michael >> <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> On 12/27/11 21:26, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Christopher Michael >>>> <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/27/11 21:16, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Christopher Michael >>>>>> <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/27/11 20:42, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Christopher Michael >>>>>>>> <cpmicha...@comcast.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/27/11 16:45, Cedric BAIL wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Enlightenment SVN >>>>>>>>>> <no-re...@enlightenment.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Log: >>>>>>>>>>> Ecore_Evas (Wayland_Shm): >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Add an actual 'frame' to ecore_evas_wayland. (just a boring >>>>>>>>>>> rectangle >>>>>>>>>>> frame w/ the title). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Couldn't you reuse in some way what Gustavo did in the EWL backend >>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the old ewl toolkit here ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> he means EWS - Evas+Ecore Windowing System. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ahhh ok. Well, what exactly is ews ? and what use could it be here ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not following wayland patches, but EWS implements a windowing >>>>>> system, with a window manager and all (decorations provided by >>>>>> elementary's wm). It's single process, so you can run all your >>>>>> elementary_test windows in framebuffer or playstation3. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had no need for things like "frame" windows and such, found it >>>>>> strange. But likely raster is reviewing your code and it does make >>>>>> sense, no idea on my side. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> And I haven't been following ews patches, lol :) But I am curious now >>>>> ... >>>>> how does ews implement a window manager& decorations ? I haven't >>>>> seen >>>>> >>>>> anything in elementary that does decorations (or for that matter, a >>>>> window >>>>> manager). Also not sure if 'single process' would be sufficient in a >>>>> wayland >>>>> case :/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> there are no patches, code is in ecore_evas and elementary for months >>>> already. >>>> >>>> ecore_evas posts ecore_events that the manager is supposed to use and >>>> do whatever is required, like adding decorations. >>>> >>>> elementary's code will implement this and register to events, creating >>>> edje to decorate it: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/elementary/src/lib/elu_ews_wm.c >>>> >>> Ahh I see. >>> >>> >>>> as for single process, that what was required. if one added a way to >>>> get windows from other process is just a matter of doing the shm. But >>>> I did not, as wayland was supposed to do it. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>>> Well, we are not making 'frame windows' (as such), just ability for >>>>> ecore_evas to draw it's own "frames" Around windows (read: >>>>> decorations)...or >>>>> for elm to do it, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Still don't get it. What's the need to have these? Isn't just the >>>> window maker (elm_win) to draw its stuff and that's it? what's up with >>>> it at Evas level? >>>> >>> >>> Well, what happens if someone makes an efl app that does not use elm ? >>> Ecore_Evas would still need a way to draw a 'frame' around the window. >> >> >> are you kidding or insane? > > > Just insane ;) > > > What are you going to do? draw the border >> >> using only evas commands, no themes? no nothing? > > Yup. It's just a basic frame (a "boring" rectangle) > > > If you're getting >> >> themes, you pull in edje, > > Right, which is why the ecore_evas frame is just a boring rectangle so we > don't pull in edje there. > > > then not in ecore-evas... a separate >> >> library? if so, why not elm? >> >> that's why I put it like that, elm pulls in ecore, evas, ecore_evas >> and edje, all nice to do it... plus ship with a theme :-) >> > Sure, and elm will have the option of doing the window decorations (frame) > itself if needed/wanted.
if nobody is going to use it, why doing it? for those not willing to use elm, my bet is that we should provide a simple example as BSD so people can copy&paste it, modifying to satisfy needs. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -------------------------------------- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Write once. Port to many. Get the SDK and tools to simplify cross-platform app development. Create new or port existing apps to sell to consumers worldwide. Explore the Intel AppUpSM program developer opportunity. appdeveloper.intel.com/join http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-appdev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
