On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:07:38 -0500 Youness Alaoui <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said:
well it's more because it really has very little additional beyond a progressbar and it functions for the same purpose - it just can have a large "fill my window" style. :) > Humm... it may go as a widget in elementary, although it seems more like a > megawidget than a simple generic widget, so I'm not sure its place is > inside elementary. But you know best what should go in there. > I however do not use elementary for the ps3 (because it hasn't been fully > ported yet) so I prefer to stay with pure edje. And since exquisite is > already written.. it's not much trouble to expose its functions into a > header. So if you don't need/want it in elementary yourself, then don't > bother since I probably won't be using it anyways. > Thanks > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:46:22 -0500 Youness Alaoui > > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > > hmm well if mainloop is alive... making an elementary widget would be the > > way > > to go... :) call it the splash widget - u can fill a window with it, just > > put > > it on the left/bottom half of your screen/window or whatever. :) it's > > really > > more of a progressbar PLUS a few more text fields that pb doesnt have... in > > fact u can do all of it with progressbars and setting text elements in the > > progressbar if we added another 1. you can do the end anim with signal > > emits - > > in fact u'd want the callback when done and an api for this... > > > > i'd actually suggest adding some more features to progressbar as above and > > adding this as a style for it. only thing then is the text log scroll - > > should > > this be in progressbar or not - do you want/need it? > > > > > Yes, I've read the code, I know how small and easy it is, however, if > > > there's a library for it, then apps could reuse the same .edc from other > > > apps, it would give a sort of 'standard' way of doing this kind of splash > > > screens, with a standard set of features, and a set of themes for it that > > > people can reuse.. and obviously, if someone wants it a bit different, > > > they can always just do their own edc instead. > > > I just saw exquisite (release announcement on planet E) and thought it > > was > > > cool, wanted to look at the API then realized it was an app, and I > > thought > > > it would be better as a lib. > > > As for uses, I do have a use for it, there are many tools for the PS3 > > that > > > take a while and do many things but have no output on the screen and I > > > thought they could benefit from that, like the messages "dumping ram, > > > patching kernel, flashing NAND, formatting flash, etc.." as well as > > having > > > a progress bar.. Telling someone (who has no idea what the EFL even is) > > to > > > write an EDC and set up his canvas and send signals, etc.. just for a > > > progress bar or for printing a message on screen is a big turn off. > > Also, I > > > think games may benefit from it, it's not always about boot time, but it > > > would be for loading game levels for example, you often see a "Loading" > > > screen in games, and this could be used for example. > > > And for my immediate use, I have a tool that unzips largs packages into > > the > > > PS3 HDD and I'd like to use it as a progress bar for when I unzip files, > > it > > > could be used for the progress bar as well as for listing the files being > > > unpacked. And yeah, the app is alive and running the mainloop in those > > use > > > cases, and unzipping 1GB takes time.... I was going to implement a > > progress > > > bar+messages system in my code, and write the edc and write a spec for > > > people to retheme it, etc... but since I've seen exquisite, I don't think > > > it's worth it to rewrite the same thing when I could just reuse existing > > > code. > > > Any suggestions on how you'd like me to proceed ? or should I just go and > > > do it (I'll probably do it tomorrow). > > > > > > Thanks, > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:13:39 -0500 Youness Alaoui > > > > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > > > > > > ummm... if an app wants to do this its as easy as loading an edje obj > > and > > > > sending signals/setting text and dragables. that's a VERY thin library > > > > there. > > > > you want this for app splashes while apps start up? are the apps that > > start > > > > actually alive and running the mainloop for a long period before they > > are > > > > usable? > > > > > > > > > This looks pretty good! > > > > > I've been thinking that this could be used for applications as well, > > not > > > > > just for the init scripts. So I'm thinking of modifying exquisite > > into a > > > > > libexquisite (which the exquisite tool itself would use). It's > > basically > > > > > just about having a way of creating an exquisite (edje) object and > > > > > translating those IPC commands into API functions. I think it could > > be > > > > used > > > > > by apps for doing progress bars (with a sort of 'standard' edje > > specs) > > > > and > > > > > generic splash screens (for games loading levels and stuff like > > that). > > > > > What do you think ? Any suggestions before I start ? > > > > > > > > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:37 AM, P Purkayastha <ppu...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, February 10, 2012 4:40:33 PM UTC+8, The Rasterman > > Carsten > > > > > > Haitzler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:04:00 -0800 (PST) P Purkayastha < > > > > ppu...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there some guide on how to set this up? I know that > > Exquisite > > > > has > > > > > > > > existed for many years but I could never set it up due to the > > lack > > > > of a > > > > > > > > noobie-friendly guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read README? look at the run-demo.sh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as such you only want to be integrating this into a boot if you > > know > > > > your > > > > > > > boot > > > > > > > stuff (systemd/systvinit/whatever) and you need to put the status > > > > writes > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > your startup scripts or modify systemd to do it for you. (write > > to > > > > fifo > > > > > > or > > > > > > > scoket directly). other than that u need to hack up all your init > > > > setup > > > > > > to > > > > > > > start exquisite before everything else (and make sure efl libs > > are > > > > > > > available to > > > > > > > it at that time) and then send status and done messages from your > > > > init > > > > > > > scripts > > > > > > > or whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yeah. Now I remember why I didn't pursue it further. 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