On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 01:16:12 -0500 Youness Alaoui > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > (FYI: for those who didn't read from IRC, when Carsten realized I meant > to > > transform exquisite into a library+tools, and not add a new library to > the > > set, he agreed to it). > > yeah. yet-another-lib was something we really dont need atm - and it's > better > rolled into an existing one, but since it'd just be a lib provided by > exquisite > - moving its own functions into that lib and thus providing it for others > to > use too - that's not bad. > > > So I've done it, just finished, but I have a couple of questions : > > - what should I use for creating an object? exquisite_object_add, or > > exquisite_object_new ? I think _add makes more sense and follows with the > > edje API. > > _add. > > > - What version should I give it ? Should I keep it to 1.0.0 (or 1.0.99 to > > be more exact), or bump it to match the core efl libs versions (1.1.99)? > > same version as exquisite. so 1.0.0 - we'll have to bump that for a > release tho. > > > - Do you have any documentation written for exquisite that I could reuse? > > Especially with regards to the format to follow for creating themes for > it? > > nup. as it was all internal to exquisite (the api anyway), and for themes - > well none other than "here's an example. follow and repeat" > Ok, well, I'll try to write documentation for how to write themes while I'm doing it for the API. > > > - Why is the tag <1> for success and <0> for failure in the edc, why not > > <success> <failure> ? Would make it more logical, and I can use an enum > for > > the status without hardcoding the values of the enum. > > if you want to change it, now's the time. but 0 or 1 is just a simpler more > compact way of handling the enums as all enums boil down to numbers anyway > :) > Ok, I think I'd rather change it if you're ok with it. Would also like to allow for <normal> tag rather than assume it doesn't have any style modifiers. Are there any themes out there for exquisite (other than default) that might be affected? > > > - There seems to be a bug in the default theme, where the last line of > text > > appears cropped after you add a text, I just tried with ./run-demo.sh and > > part of the last text is cropped after adding one line, then a bigger > part > > after adding another line, then the last lines don't even show up. I > > tracked it to the shift_text embryo script in the edj, which does y = y - > > 8; however, the font size is not fixed to 8 pixels height, I changed it > to > > y - 13 and it worked. A better solution must be used to make sure the > text > > always shows independently of your default font size or whatever might > > affect it. > > yeah. that's a theme bug there - it should do text scrolling another way. > If you find a better way, let me know so it gets fixed at the same time. > > > Thanks, > > KaKaRoTo > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Carsten Haitzler > > <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:07:38 -0500 Youness Alaoui > > > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > > > > well it's more because it really has very little additional beyond a > > > progressbar and it functions for the same purpose - it just can have a > > > large > > > "fill my window" style. :) > > > > > > > Humm... it may go as a widget in elementary, although it seems more > like > > > a > > > > megawidget than a simple generic widget, so I'm not sure its place is > > > > inside elementary. But you know best what should go in there. > > > > I however do not use elementary for the ps3 (because it hasn't been > fully > > > > ported yet) so I prefer to stay with pure edje. And since exquisite > is > > > > already written.. it's not much trouble to expose its functions into > a > > > > header. So if you don't need/want it in elementary yourself, then > don't > > > > bother since I probably won't be using it anyways. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 4:07 AM, Carsten Haitzler < > ras...@rasterman.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 03:46:22 -0500 Youness Alaoui > > > > > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > > > > > > > > hmm well if mainloop is alive... making an elementary widget would > be > > > the > > > > > way > > > > > to go... :) call it the splash widget - u can fill a window with > it, > > > just > > > > > put > > > > > it on the left/bottom half of your screen/window or whatever. :) > it's > > > > > really > > > > > more of a progressbar PLUS a few more text fields that pb doesnt > > > have... in > > > > > fact u can do all of it with progressbars and setting text > elements in > > > the > > > > > progressbar if we added another 1. you can do the end anim with > signal > > > > > emits - > > > > > in fact u'd want the callback when done and an api for this... > > > > > > > > > > i'd actually suggest adding some more features to progressbar as > above > > > and > > > > > adding this as a style for it. only thing then is the text log > scroll - > > > > > should > > > > > this be in progressbar or not - do you want/need it? > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I've read the code, I know how small and easy it is, > however, if > > > > > > there's a library for it, then apps could reuse the same .edc > from > > > other > > > > > > apps, it would give a sort of 'standard' way of doing this kind > of > > > splash > > > > > > screens, with a standard set of features, and a set of themes > for it > > > that > > > > > > people can reuse.. and obviously, if someone wants it a bit > > > different, > > > > > > they can always just do their own edc instead. > > > > > > I just saw exquisite (release announcement on planet E) and > thought > > > it > > > > > was > > > > > > cool, wanted to look at the API then realized it was an app, and > I > > > > > thought > > > > > > it would be better as a lib. > > > > > > As for uses, I do have a use for it, there are many tools for > the PS3 > > > > > that > > > > > > take a while and do many things but have no output on the screen > and > > > I > > > > > > thought they could benefit from that, like the messages "dumping > ram, > > > > > > patching kernel, flashing NAND, formatting flash, etc.." as well > as > > > > > having > > > > > > a progress bar.. Telling someone (who has no idea what the EFL > even > > > is) > > > > > to > > > > > > write an EDC and set up his canvas and send signals, etc.. just > for a > > > > > > progress bar or for printing a message on screen is a big turn > off. > > > > > Also, I > > > > > > think games may benefit from it, it's not always about boot time, > > > but it > > > > > > would be for loading game levels for example, you often see a > > > "Loading" > > > > > > screen in games, and this could be used for example. > > > > > > And for my immediate use, I have a tool that unzips largs > packages > > > into > > > > > the > > > > > > PS3 HDD and I'd like to use it as a progress bar for when I unzip > > > files, > > > > > it > > > > > > could be used for the progress bar as well as for listing the > files > > > being > > > > > > unpacked. And yeah, the app is alive and running the mainloop in > > > those > > > > > use > > > > > > cases, and unzipping 1GB takes time.... I was going to implement > a > > > > > progress > > > > > > bar+messages system in my code, and write the edc and write a > spec > > > for > > > > > > people to retheme it, etc... but since I've seen exquisite, I > don't > > > think > > > > > > it's worth it to rewrite the same thing when I could just reuse > > > existing > > > > > > code. > > > > > > Any suggestions on how you'd like me to proceed ? or should I > just > > > go and > > > > > > do it (I'll probably do it tomorrow). > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:03 AM, Carsten Haitzler < > > > ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:13:39 -0500 Youness Alaoui > > > > > > > <kakar...@kakaroto.homelinux.net> said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ummm... if an app wants to do this its as easy as loading an > edje > > > obj > > > > > and > > > > > > > sending signals/setting text and dragables. that's a VERY thin > > > library > > > > > > > there. > > > > > > > you want this for app splashes while apps start up? are the > apps > > > that > > > > > start > > > > > > > actually alive and running the mainloop for a long period > before > > > they > > > > > are > > > > > > > usable? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This looks pretty good! > > > > > > > > I've been thinking that this could be used for applications > as > > > well, > > > > > not > > > > > > > > just for the init scripts. So I'm thinking of modifying > exquisite > > > > > into a > > > > > > > > libexquisite (which the exquisite tool itself would use). > It's > > > > > basically > > > > > > > > just about having a way of creating an exquisite (edje) > object > > > and > > > > > > > > translating those IPC commands into API functions. I think it > > > could > > > > > be > > > > > > > used > > > > > > > > by apps for doing progress bars (with a sort of 'standard' > edje > > > > > specs) > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > generic splash screens (for games loading levels and stuff > like > > > > > that). > > > > > > > > What do you think ? Any suggestions before I start ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > KaKaRoTo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 4:37 AM, P Purkayastha < > ppu...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, February 10, 2012 4:40:33 PM UTC+8, The > Rasterman > > > > > Carsten > > > > > > > > > Haitzler wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:04:00 -0800 (PST) P Purkayastha < > > > > > > > ppu...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there some guide on how to set this up? I know that > > > > > Exquisite > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > existed for many years but I could never set it up due > to > > > the > > > > > lack > > > > > > > of a > > > > > > > > > > > noobie-friendly guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > read README? look at the run-demo.sh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as such you only want to be integrating this into a boot > if > > > you > > > > > know > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > boot > > > > > > > > > > stuff (systemd/systvinit/whatever) and you need to put > the > > > status > > > > > > > writes > > > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > your startup scripts or modify systemd to do it for you. > > > (write > > > > > to > > > > > > > fifo > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > scoket directly). other than that u need to hack up all > your > > > init > > > > > > > setup > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > start exquisite before everything else (and make sure efl > > > libs > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > available to > > > > > > > > > > it at that time) and then send status and done messages > from > > > your > > > > > > > init > > > > > > > > > > scripts > > > > > > > > > > or whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah yeah. Now I remember why I didn't pursue it further. 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