On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Vincent Torri <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Vincent Torri 
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Vincent Torri 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Carsten Haitzler 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:26:42 +0100 Vincent Torri 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm against the merge of exotic just one week before the release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently, there are a lot of copy/paste errorrs in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> autotools, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well as some stuff that could be done a lot better.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cedric : let exotic in svn, but please revert all your changes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EFL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm with you there - postpone until after release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I obviously disagree for three reasons :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ii relevant because
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Expected from you :-) I know that you have a so strong mind and will,
>>>>>>>>>> that you will not accept anything easily.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - It doesn't impact non user of Exotic, so it's irrelevant for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> most people.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the are errors in the autotools. Just before the release... I won't
>>>>>>>>>>> have tiime to fix them as i'll be away during more than a week
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please point them, that would help get them fixed. Or just wait a few
>>>>>>>>>> hour that Gustavo wakeup and say that with CMake, it would have been
>>>>>>>>>> eathier ;-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> some variables like _LIBS and so on, some requirement variables (you
>>>>>>>>> just broke static compilation...) etc...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> static compilation is working. I am running it every day since 2
>>>>>>>> months with this patch set. I am able to build statically up to
>>>>>>>> elementary with all eina and evas module statically build also. Could
>>>>>>>> you elaborate why you think the static build is broken ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> look at all the requirements_*** that are almost all wrong
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was all this thread about this copy & paste error ? If yes, then that's 
>>>>>> solved.
>>>>>
>>>>> there are other problems in the autotools
>>>>>
>>>>> and no, it's not only copy/paste error... Fuck don't you read what i 
>>>>> wrote ?
>>>>
>>>> You are not writing meaningful information. I am here trying to
>>>> decipher what you write and you are not helping at all. Your mail is
>>>> like a riddle, there is no clear pointer at the error. Sorry I can't
>>>> read your mind from where I am.
>>>>
>>>
>>> it seems you didn't read that :
>>>
>>> I prefer say it again : I'm not against exotic as a library. I'm
>>> against merging it in the EFL just before the release. Note that we
>>> already did that before (not adding features just before a release).
>>> Here, it's not merging something one month or 2 before a release. It's
>>> only 1 week before it.
>>>
>>> So we have HIGH probabilities to release something broken (as not
>>> being tested a lot by others like you). And as you break often
>>> stuff...
>>>
>>> And for what ? An obscure OS.
>>>
>>> So it seems that you don't care about the robustness of the future release.
>>
>> so you don't want to remove your exotic merge ?
>
> Sorry I was expecting technical argument and you pointing to technical
> issue that I could solve, but that's not the case.

ok, i quickly looked at your patches (around 5s for all of them) and i
spotted 2 problems. It seems that you even don't want to thank me for

1) looking at your patches
2) spotting bugs.

but I'm ok with that.

> To make it short
> your point is just: "cedric should not commit code in the week before
> a release".

no. You are *heavily* modify the autotools. The errors also there can be subtle.

> You know I can bork svn in more subtle way that would take
> it more than one week to get detected ? Seriously my change in
> Ecore_Thread are likely much more complex and risky, than this commit
> for enabling Exotic. But you didn't even raise your hand on it.

no comment...

> As to the point, it's not a library to support one obscur OS, but make
> it possible to support all obscur OS. It's not like evil or escape,
> that target one system and require us to change every library when we
> want to support another OS. And this make it possible for the 1.2
> branch to be the easy to port branch.
>
> If there is nothing fixable in time. I mean hard point, that really
> break build, then yes, I am ok to revert. But right now, I have
> adressed all the typos that were detected and all the buildbot seems
> to be happy at the moment. I am still waiting for your technical
> point, when you are done with your rants of course.

my rants ? You are committing unknown stuff, without telling people.
Your argument is : after 1.2 it will be harder, so let's get it in
just before a release. Great. 2 other people disagree : raster and me.
But you don't care.

So now, if there is a big problem with your merge (i don't know, and
actually, i care about that less and less), we will have a good
publicity.

your behavior is a rant.

Vincent

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