On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 12:05:07 +0200 Boris Faure <bo...@fau.re> said:

> On 12-08-26 13:04, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 Aug 2012 01:03:01 +0200 Lionel Orry <lionel.o...@gmail.com> said:
> > 
> > > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <r...@1407.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I was supposed, since FOSDEM 2012, to try to install gitorious for later
> > > > use by E developers when E moves to git after final e17 release.
> > > >
> > > > However, since Gitorious is a bit complicated to install
> 
> That's the main issue.
> 
> > other than imho looking a tad ugly... indefero looks like one of the best to
> > me... has anyone ever used it or installed it.
> > 
> > just to put things on the page here. what we want is to ultimately move to
> > git. trac is a pita. it's bug reporter is simple - that's nice, but it has
> > too many issues and is slow slow slow. it also can't manage svn access. we
> > do that ourselves atm via svn devs dir and some scripts. so what we need is:
> > 
> > 1. handles git (decently) - that means allows listing of git repos,
> > browsing of src, commits, timeline etc.
> > 2. handles commit access rights
> > 3. tracks bugs/todo's
> > 4. some kind of wiki documentation
> 
> 5. code reviews?

it's there in the list that indefero does. if it is half as good as gerrit i'm
sold on it as the best thing since sliced bread :)

> > i'd prefer it to be easy to setup and maintain. i'd rather not use github,
> > sf.net etc. due to historical issues with sf.net going down for extended
> > periods and us getting stuck. also we are large enough to warrant our own
> > setup and it gives us more freedom. we also happen to9 have the infra to do
> > it so may as well use it. :)
> 
> With git, you're not screwed up when the "master" is down as you can have
> multiple mirrors and can still commit locally. The kernel development didn't
> stop when kernel.org was down.

i know - but when our bug tracker stops working and wiki etc. etc. ...

> The main issue with not hosting the system is that you can't setup as many
> hooks as you'd like. I think that only the one that reformat the code on push
> may not be able to set up at github, but you can very easily set up hooks to
> message on irc, to close bug on track/whatever or github itself when some
> keywords are used in the commit.

yes. the freedom when we DIY is good. :)

> > personally i prefer php because coming from the c end of development.. it's
> > the simplest to deal with. basically it is C with $'s in front of
> > variables. :) but that's personal.
> > 
> > as such indefero looks totally sweet to me. well rummaging through their
> > pages. the question is... how good is it in real life? it looks to be
> > relatively new, thus why i hadn't heard of it yet.
> 
> I couldn't find how their review system works.
> Other than that it looks ok.

same. thus i'd like to know more.

> There's also gerrit that is widely known to do code reviews, but it really
> sucks at code highlighting :( and it's only usefull at reviews and commit
> access rights.

yup gerrit is awesome, but ugly (it doesnt highlight well and u add a whole
java based git implementation as your git server for it to work.

for now code review is on the luxury extra list, but if it comes along for the
ride with indefero i'm sold if u can go to any commit, review it with inline
comments in the patch and even have an "approve" or "merge" button and
"reject/remove" one (if already committed but we can then remove it along with
review) i'm happy. this would reduce patch review burden a lot.

-- 
------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --------------
The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    ras...@rasterman.com


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