On Saturday, November 24, 2012, Vincent Torri wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Luis Felipe Strano Moraes
> <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Vincent Torri 
> > <[email protected]<javascript:;>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Simon <[email protected]<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >> > On 11/24/2012 09:19 PM,
> >> > [email protected] <javascript:;>wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Simon<[email protected]<javascript:;>>
>  wrote:
> >> >>> >On 11/24/2012 08:53 PM,
> >> >>> >[email protected] <javascript:;> 
> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >>>> >>i think that there are too much ML : enlightenment-announce also
> >> >>>> >>exists and the announce of the alpha4 is there. Imho, remove
> >> >>>> >>enlightenment-release mailing list
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >>Vincent
> >> >>> >I think it's good to have a separate mailing list where issues
> >> regarding
> >> >>> >releases or issues
> >> >> what's the difference of the "release" ML and the "announce" ML ?
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) they have exactly the same purpose
> >> >> 2) the "announce" one exists for longer time and has already the
> >> >> announce of previous releases
> >> >>
> >> >> so let kill the "release" ML
> >> >>
> >> >> Vincent
> >> >>
> >> > In other projects Announce just announces a new Release cycle i.e. EFL
> >> > 1.8.0 has been released or It's the end of the world and Enlightenment
> >> > e17 has been released today, where as released or packaging as a
> >> > alternate name would also announce changes to release procedures
> >> > available config options, moving to a split tree, etc etc as a rule of
> >> > thumb the things packagers want or should know without needing to read
> >> > the Devel mailing list. For me currently 99% of what i care about in
> >> > enlightenment is related to packaging and releasing this sort of stuff
> >> > and discussion around these issues make up less then 5% of discussion
> on
> >> > the devel list so ideally i and other packagers should be able to
> >> > subscribe to this list and not have to pay to much attention to the
> >> > devel list. Often these discussions are not just that a new version of
> >> > the libs has been released.
> >>
> >> the probability to send mail to the wrong ML is higher. In addition:
> >>
> >> 1) there are more people who have subscribed to the announce ML, so
> >> better information spread
> >> 2) I'm not sure that people want more and more subscriptions to MLs.
> >> In my case, i'm quite fed up with all the ML i have already
> >> subscribed, and i have unsubscribe from a lot of them.
> >>
> >>
> > The reason many people subscribe to the announce mailing list is because
> it
> > is by definition a low-volume mailing list, with no discussions allowed,
> > made for the sole purpose of *announcing* releases.
> >
> > The new ML is for the people who are working on preparing the releases,
> > packaging them and doing testing. Though we do have many mailing lists,
> it
> > seems to me like they have each their specific purpose.
>
> e-devel ML is perfectly suited for what you propose.


Packagers disagree. They said its hard to filter packaging relevant
information from e-devel. They want a list to help create new releases
(testing distcheck elsewhere other than a single person doing it) and
properly packaging it (like raster mailed about Esvg, if to enable or
disable some flag, etc




>
> Vincent
>
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