On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:29:20 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 11:33:49 -0200 Lucas De Marchi
> <[email protected]> said:
> 
> > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Carsten Haitzler
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 09:51:33 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > > <[email protected]> said:
> > >
> > >> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, David Seikel wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 12:54:19 +0200 "Alex-P. Natsios"
> > >> > <[email protected] <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > stupid suggestions but can certainly happen if you forget to
> > >> > > check them :)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1) what autofoo versions does Ubuntu 11.04 have? maybe its
> > >> > > too old? 2) same goes for their GCC version
> > >> >
> > >> > I was gonna rant and rave about not being too old, but then
> > >> > checked and Ubuntu 11.04 HAS reached EOL (End Of Life) in
> > >> > October.  So yes, good idea to upgrade Ubuntu in this case.
> > >> >
> > >> > <rant>
> > >> > Now, had it been Ubuntu 10.04, that's a whole other story,
> > >> > it's not past it's EOL yet, so versions of autofoo and gcc on
> > >> > it are by definition, not too old.  Coz the definition of "too
> > >> > old" should NOT include popular distros that are still
> > >> > supported by their makers. </rant>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Ahahah. That means nothing, really. Who committed to LTS of that
> > >> version is Canonical/Ubuntu, not Enlightenment. Imagine a
> > >> scenario where some crazy dude says he has a distribution with
> > >> 20 year support, we'll try to match?!
> > >
> > > you know how i love to disagree with you... but you are
> > > absolutely right. *WE* didn't commit to support of 10.04 or 11.04
> > > of ubuntu. canonical did. we are free to raise out requirements
> > > as we see fit. we did not commit to keeping them static.
> > 
> > WTF is happening to the world?  I, Gustavo and Raster agree on
> > something
> 
> end of the world man... i all started with e17 release :)

We only have to keep arguing for another few months, then Ubuntu 10.04
will EOL as well.  At least on the desktop, server keeps going for a
couple more years.  No one wants to run EFL stuff on a server.  Oh
wait, yes they do.  B-)

> > > i DO suggest that we keep in mind though that we will have people
> > > on older systems and by ensuring we don't build/run on them we
> > > basically lose users. :)

Isn't one of our design goals to be able to run on all sorts of low
powered ancient crap hardware?  So yes, we DO want such people as
users, and to run on fridges, toasters, and my mothers old Mac.  OK, we
can skip my mothers old Mac, she don't use it any more anyway, and it
pre-dates Apples sensible move to a Unix core.

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