On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:29:37 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> said:

> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 08:43:44 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:51:16 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 1:03 AM, Carsten Haitzler
> > > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 22:50:08 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> > > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said:
> > > >
> > > >> On Wednesday, January 16, 2013, David Seikel wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:48:14 -0800 "Enlightenment SVN"
> > > >> > <no-re...@enlightenment.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Log:
> > > >> > > add missing licenses references, fix copyright, add link
> > > >> > > result notice.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Author:       barbieri
> > > >> > > Date:         2013-01-16 13:48:14 -0800 (Wed, 16 Jan 2013)
> > > >> > > New Revision: 82911
> > > >> > > Trac:         http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/changeset/82911
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Modified:
> > > >> > >   trunk/efl/COPYING trunk/efl/licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > trunk/efl/licenses/COPYING.LGPL
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Modified: trunk/efl/COPYING
> > > >> > > ===================================================================
> > > >> > > --- trunk/efl/COPYING 2013-01-16 21:47:37 UTC (rev 82910)
> > > >> > > +++ trunk/efl/COPYING 2013-01-16 21:48:14 UTC (rev 82911)
> > > >> > > @@ -1,11 +1,23 @@
> > > >> > > -EFL comes with several licences. Listed are the
> > > >> > > library/probject +EFL comes with several licences. Listed
> > > >> > > are the library/project name and the license file covering
> > > >> > > it.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >  evil:            licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > -escape:          licenses/COPYING.GPL
> > > >> > > +escape:          licenses/COPYING.GPL (used in PlayStation
> > > >> > > native) +eina:            licenses/COPYING.LGPL
> > > >> > >  eet:             licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > -eina:            licenses/COPYING.LGPL
> > > >> > >  eo:              licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > >  evas:            licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > +embryo:          licenses/COPYING.SMALL
> > > >> > >  ecore:           licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > -embryo:          licenses/COPYING.SMALL
> > > >> > > +eio:             licenses/COPYING.LGPL
> > > >> > > +edbus:           licenses/COPYING.LGPL
> > > >> > > +efreet:          licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > +eeze:            licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > +ephysics:        licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > +edje:            licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > +edje/epp:        licenses/COPYING.GPL (separate
> > > >> > > binary/executable) +emotion:         licenses/COPYING.BSD
> > > >> > > +ethumb:          licenses/COPYING.LGPL
> > > >> > > +
> > > >> > > +NOTE: If linked together, the result will be LGPL (or GPL
> > > >> > > is Escape is +used) due that license characteristics.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hmmm, guess that means the BSD licences are useless, since
> > > >> > it's all gonna be linked together anyway, and thus GPL
> > > >> > contaminated.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> That is right. For all purposes consider EFL = LGPL. We just
> > > >> didn't change the license as it would require approvals. But
> > > >> effectively it's all LGPL.
> > > >
> > > > incorrect. only if we make a single libefl.so is this the case.
> > > 
> > > The on-disk .so files are not, but as soon as they are dynamically
> > > linked in the application they do that. Unfortunately I had to learn
> > > that with some lawyers :-P
> > 
> > they don't make your application lgpl. that dont make it gpl. they
> > dont make it bsd. they dont affect your application at all... unless
> > you STATICALLY link... lgpl is very explicit about its boundaries.
> > GPL - yes. LGPL - no.
> 
> No, I'm not spreading FUD.  I commented if the LGPL had spread to cover
> the BSD licensed parts.  Gustavo agreed it did, then said later that a

it has not. that is utterly false saying it does.

> lawyer taught him that it does, and he even said in his original commit
> that it did.  You can call it what you want, I'd call it "viral", and
> it's not FUD to call it that.  Gustavo seems to think it spread it's
> influence, the lawyer he mentions seems to think so to, but Gustavo
> thinks using the word "virus" is FUD.  I call a spade a spade, it
> spread like a virus.  It's a legal problem, lawyers might know what
> they are talking about.  We programmers can argue all we like, the only
> definitive answer is for a judge to make in a court of law.

different binaries are licensed differently and the license applies to what is
distributed - eg binaries. what applies to source is irrelevant here mostly due
to the fact that all src is shipped anyway - be it bsd or lgpl. its the
binaries that count. evas has not become lgpl. if you like to evas then what
you link to it has not become bsd or lgpl.

> Let's all just agree to disagree, until a court informs us otherwise.
> 
> -- 
> A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants
> coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.


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