On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:05:00 +0100 Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> said:
> On 22/06/13 02:42, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:04:32 +0100 Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> > > said: > > > >> Hey, > >> > >> I often argue against adding new features (and bugs), libs, widgets, > >> etcetera. > >> > >> I often explain my stance in a per case way. However I stumbled across > >> this nice article which explains where I am coming from. > >> > >> You should probably read it, and hopefully be more conscious about it: > >> http://firstround.com/article/The-one-cost-engineers-and-product-managers-dont-consider > > > > there's a project you'd love and adore. it's called gnome 3. remove all > > possibly removable features and options. :) > > > > yes. features. code.. they cost more than just development. it's called > > maintenance. s a project gets bigger (more code. more features) it requires > > more manpower for maintenance. that's life. > > > > You either mistakenly or intentionally got it wrong. I guess me writing > E (while actually meaning EFL + E) was also confusing. > > Obviously if customizability is a main feature of your "product", those > features are essential and should not be dropped. I was more talking > about adding elm widgets just for the sake of it, or thinking about > adding things. > > Also, I don't completely agree with everything he said, but it's still a > good read and I think everyone should take some things from it. well his article makes a VERY strong point of "never add features.. ever!!!! (unless you absolutely must and have no choice and can justify it)" in fact it makes a point of removing features. it's a very gnome-like stance. yes - elm has too many. we need to refactor much of it to at least internally be the same widget/core just with differing styles. toggle got refactored into check at some point. we could refactor radio and check to merge. gengrid and genlist should become one. etc. u may notice no new widgets have appeared in elm for a while. this is also why we've talked about bob... punt off every little customization off into snippets of lua... :) edje itself has also become a massive blob of "features" too... and this is an attempt at finding a better way to manage our feature-pile. -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
