On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 11:52:55 +0000 Chris Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 19/01/14 11:23, David Seikel wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 20:40:47 +1030 Simon <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 01/19/2014 04:13 AM, David Seikel wrote: > >>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 00:26:45 +0900 Cedric BAIL > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Stefan Schmidt > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 11:08, Daniel Kolesa wrote: > >>>>>> quaker pushed a commit to branch master. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/commit/?id=6db16915951af61d28f62f4de7c14c76e4303f18 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> commit 6db16915951af61d28f62f4de7c14c76e4303f18 > >>>>>> Author: Daniel Kolesa <[email protected]> > >>>>>> Date: Fri Jan 17 19:07:59 2014 +0000 > >>>>>> > >>>>>> edje: use luajit by default, if you want lua use > >>>>>> --enable-lua-old > >>>>> I'm unhappy with this commit. > >>>>> > >>>>> Where and when was it decided to switch on a new default > >>>>> dependency? For instance jenkins is broken for all efl related > >>>>> builds now because nobody told me or beber in advance that > >>>>> luajit will be needed from now on. And as I have a busy weekend > >>>>> I will only be anle to look into this from Monday. I think > >>>>> something like this should be communicated before the actual > >>>>> change hits the repo. > >>>> I second you on that. The fact that the bot got broken is > >>>> something really bad and we should avoid that. Beber and Stefan > >>>> are doing a great job at mainting it and are very responsive. It > >>>> is good practice to at least talk with them before. > >>> Switching to LuaJIT 2.0 was planned, but I thought I was going to > >>> do that a bit later. After some discussion where I present my > >>> results. I also would have mentioned the Ubuntu PPA this old > >>> dinosaur uses for the more recent LuaJIT > >>> https://launchpad.net/~mwild1/+archive/ppa coz Ubuntu LTS only has > >>> an old beta of that version. I've not found one for Debian > >>> dinosaurs, or other distros. I can't recall off the top of my > >>> head what distro/version our jenkins is running on, so I can't > >>> suggest how to install the right LuaJIT version. > >>> > >>> I agree with the part about the white space changes should have > >>> been a separate commit, though that discussion should be a > >>> separate email thread. B-) > >>> > >> luajit is the second dep not available in the main openSUSE repo > >> (bullet was the first), fortunately i can pull it from the games > >> development repo, but if we don't have it i'm guessing most other > >> distro's don't have it yet. > > > > Then you/they can not use luaJit (--enable-lua-old) > > > LuaJIT 2.0.0 was released in November 2012. So the current Ubuntu > > LTS (12.04) predates that and could only have a beta version. So > > does the Ubuntu release after that (12.10). The two latest non LTS > > Ubuntu versions have the released version (13.04 and 13.10). The > > next Ubuntu LTS is due out in three or four months. For those that > > don't know, Ubuntu uses a year.month format for their version > > numbers, and do a release every six months, you do the math. > > > > Likely other distros have the full 2.0.0 release, it's only long > > tern stable distros like Ubuntu LTS that might have trouble. I've > > not checked, but Debian stable might also have trouble. Naturally > > other distro versions older than one year are likely to not have > > the 2.0.0 release. Doesn't take long to became a dinosaur around > > here. Roar! B-) > > > > Yes, you are a dinosaur :P /me waves a stack of punch cards at you and yells "Get off my lawn!". > > My LuaJIT experiments last year used Ubuntu 12.04, and I used > > LuaJIT git HEAD at the time. This year I have tried the released > > 2.0.1 from that PPA I mentioned, and a couple of things broke. > > I've not actually tried Quakers commit yet. LuaJIT is up to 2.0.2, > > released mid last year, but I didn't find a PPA for that version. > > Yes, sometimes I do use bleeding edge software, but I don't force > > it on anyone else. B-) > > > > > > Personally, I don't see this as being "forced" on anyone. > > "edje: use luajit by default, if you want lua use --enable-lua-old" > > Thus, for those that do not have luajit (or do not want it), you can > --enable-lua-old. > > Not "forced" on anyone :) "Forced" (imo) would be if there was no > available option(s) to change it. I was speaking in general by that point. In my opinion too often the bleeding edge is forced down peoples throats. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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