Stripping quotes as it gets big.

On 14/05/28, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> also ask stefan how much easier it is to do releases of efl now - having it
> merged means we can release more often because its far less work. the problem
> is you are ignoring all the upsides to what we did because it's different to
> your previous build setup and you need to adapt.

My problem is not with auto select.
auto select also had an impact here for me at the begin when i started to 
package
debian/centos/fedora/archlinux.

> we will merge libs. that's my plan for efl 2.0 - likely it'll be merged into 2
> libs (maybe 3) libefl-core.so libefl-gfx.so and maybe libefl-etc.so. guess
> which does what?
This is the kind of things that would ease my work.

> 
> > When i decided to use EFL, one of its major point was its modularity,
> > it was all cool for me because i could just build what i needed, and 
> > everyone
> > by that time was happy about that, and claiming it would stay like that.
> 
> and that modularity cost us a lot in terms of support from distributions and 
> in
> complexity to build along with complaints. it was a nice theory, but in
> practice it fell over badly. do a survey of efl devs and ask them which is
> better. they will almost all say that a unified tree is better, and we likely
> want to merge even more.
>
Maybe i have to clear it up : My problem is not the unified tree, but my problem
started at the same time.

> > > make DESTDIR=/tmp/myefl
> you can ALSO just keep a list of files you DO want (files and dirs) and use
> that list to copy/tar just those and the subdirs, nuke the rest, then untar or
> move back in place. so you have 2 ways to do it.
Indeed, it is a simple thing that is way easier to do for me, and i didnt though
about it.

> if you do it right, it's no different to keeping up with efl if we kept it as
> it was - as it was we'd add new things that would be on by default that you
> have to --disable and thus keep up somehow.
Having a --disable-gui is the only thing i would need.

> 
> so you know we can't do what you want us to do... but you complain bitterly
> anyway? dude! chill! :)
nah, my real problem isnt that 1.7 wont get fixes anymore, its only the final
stage that got me in an embarrassing situation.

> so we keep making things worse for 90%+ of our users to keep 10% from having 
> to
> adapt? you can adapt and have exactly what you want. see above.
We can put many things in 'adapt'.

> this is actually true - especially of gnentoo and all its USE flags. idiots 
> who
> think they are cool enable "xcb" use flags because someone told them xcb is
> faster and then they find certain features not working in e or efl because xcb
> support isnt there or it's iffy (xcb with opengl is impossible so we have a
> hack to keep xlib and then drop to xcb behind xlibs back - but some drivers 
> are
> far from happy with this). the CONTINUAL questions of "what is the build 
> order"
> from people REGARDLESS that we documented it on the website - they still keep
> asking. it is was a problem. now its gone.
> 
To solve your problems under the GUI world, you disabled me from disabling the 
GUI
world.

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