On Wed, 28 May 2014 08:34:35 +0200 Guillaume Friloux <guilla...@friloux.me> said:
> Stripping quotes as it gets big. > > On 14/05/28, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > also ask stefan how much easier it is to do releases of efl now - having it > > merged means we can release more often because its far less work. the > > problem is you are ignoring all the upsides to what we did because it's > > different to your previous build setup and you need to adapt. > > My problem is not with auto select. > auto select also had an impact here for me at the begin when i started to > package debian/centos/fedora/archlinux. > > > we will merge libs. that's my plan for efl 2.0 - likely it'll be merged > > into 2 libs (maybe 3) libefl-core.so libefl-gfx.so and maybe libefl-etc.so. > > guess which does what? > This is the kind of things that would ease my work. it'll still be a single tree build. > > > > > When i decided to use EFL, one of its major point was its modularity, > > > it was all cool for me because i could just build what i needed, and > > > everyone by that time was happy about that, and claiming it would stay > > > like that. > > > > and that modularity cost us a lot in terms of support from distributions > > and in complexity to build along with complaints. it was a nice theory, but > > in practice it fell over badly. do a survey of efl devs and ask them which > > is better. they will almost all say that a unified tree is better, and we > > likely want to merge even more. > > > Maybe i have to clear it up : My problem is not the unified tree, but my > problem started at the same time. > > > > > make DESTDIR=/tmp/myefl > > you can ALSO just keep a list of files you DO want (files and dirs) and use > > that list to copy/tar just those and the subdirs, nuke the rest, then untar > > or move back in place. so you have 2 ways to do it. > Indeed, it is a simple thing that is way easier to do for me, and i didnt > though about it. :) i guess this is why i scratch my head a bit and wonder why you are so upset. i see a very easy solution in front of me. :) > > if you do it right, it's no different to keeping up with efl if we kept it > > as it was - as it was we'd add new things that would be on by default that > > you have to --disable and thus keep up somehow. > Having a --disable-gui is the only thing i would need. we are open to patches having this as a way of building a server profile - but yes, it may break if someone forgets to do the right thing when a new gui thing is added and then doesn't disable on build. breaks happen. that's life when we move forward. testing and bringing up the issues you see is a way of fixing it. :) > > so you know we can't do what you want us to do... but you complain bitterly > > anyway? dude! chill! :) > nah, my real problem isnt that 1.7 wont get fixes anymore, its only the final > stage that got me in an embarrassing situation. > > > so we keep making things worse for 90%+ of our users to keep 10% from > > having to adapt? you can adapt and have exactly what you want. see above. > We can put many things in 'adapt'. sure. yoou have to adapt to 2 years of development - we move forward fast. :) > > this is actually true - especially of gnentoo and all its USE flags. idiots > > who think they are cool enable "xcb" use flags because someone told them > > xcb is faster and then they find certain features not working in e or efl > > because xcb support isnt there or it's iffy (xcb with opengl is impossible > > so we have a hack to keep xlib and then drop to xcb behind xlibs back - but > > some drivers are far from happy with this). the CONTINUAL questions of > > "what is the build order" from people REGARDLESS that we documented it on > > the website - they still keep asking. it is was a problem. now its gone. > > > To solve your problems under the GUI world, you disabled me from disabling > the GUI world. nah - i just see it as you packaging only the bits you need and ignoring the bits you don't :) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Time is money. Stop wasting it! Get your web API in 5 minutes. www.restlet.com/download http://p.sf.net/sfu/restlet _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
