On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 20/04/15 13:15, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > Hello. > > > > 1.14 is one a good way now an it is about time to discuss the schedule > for 1.15 > > > > Tom approached me with a suggestion to ease the predictability of our > release dates. > > Instead of doing a schedule being aligned with the 12 weeks he suggested > that we use the first Monday of a month every three month. For us that > would mean: > > > > First Monday of August: 1.15 > > First Monday of November: 1.16 > > First Monday of February: 1.17 > > First Monday of Mai: 1.18 > > First Monday of August: 1.19 > > Yup, and the freeze starting the first Monday the month before. This > way, we don't have to think and look up when freeze starts/ends and when > the release is at, we just know (at least the ballpark). This also lets > projects that have more long term planning than what we do, reliably be > able to predict our releases way ahead. > > Very good idea, tasn. In this way, we can easily guess the next release date. > > ... > > > > This means we are no longer having the fixed 8+4 weeks schedule instead > the merge window would grow or shrink based on the months lengths. I would > keep the stabilization phase at the last 4 weeks as we are doing now. > > The variation in length is not that significant. > > Same here. If it's not like 2~3 weeks difference, the variation in length should be acceptable. > > > > Based on this a proposal looks like this: (9+4 weeks) > > > > 2015-05-04 Merge window for 1.15 opens > > 2015-06-22 Notice about soon ending merge window > > 2015-07-06 Merge window is over. > > > > * Only bug fixes from this point > > * Alpha release tarball > > * Four weeks stabilization phase starts > > > > 2015-07-13 Beta1 release tarball > > > > * Only critical fixes from this point > > > > 2015-07-20 Beta2 release tarball > > 2015-07-27 Beta3 release tarball > > 2015-08-03 EFL 1.15 is Out (First Monday in August) > > > > What do you folks think about the idea? > > > > The second topic which makes 1.15 different from other releases is that > July will be a problematic time for 1.15 as I will be offline for 3 weeks > in July. This raises the question how we are going to handle this. It will > be the first three weeks in July which means I would be back for the final > release but would miss most of the stabilization phase. > > > > Options I see for this: > > 1) Extend the merge window for 1.15 about three weeks so we would start > stabilization once I'm back > > 2) Count down 1.5 so we finish by end of June > > 3) Find someone who is willing to handle merge window close, alpha and > beta stuff. > > The last one for sure. You shouldn't be pressured to change your life > according to E releases, and e releases shouldn't change according to > your life. > > +1 for #3. Tasn already said what I wanted to say. You've done a good job so far but you shouldn't be pressured. I would like to volunteer at least for elementary if you need a help for last moment bug fix, testing, news update, tarball, and etc. Thanks, Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) > -- > Tom. > > > > > > > I do not think 1 or 2 are really feasible but I wanted to offer it here > for discussion. My personal preference would be option 3. If someone has > the motivation to do this there is plenty time for me to explain my > workflow to him. > > > > Any other problems you folks see time wise? > > > > If I hear nothing else I will consider it fixed towards the end of the > week. > > > > regards > > Stefan Schmidt > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT > > Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard > > Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live > exercises > > http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- > event?utm_ > > source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT > Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard > Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live > exercises > http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- > event?utm_ > source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BPM Camp - Free Virtual Workshop May 6th at 10am PDT/1PM EDT Develop your own process in accordance with the BPMN 2 standard Learn Process modeling best practices with Bonita BPM through live exercises http://www.bonitasoft.com/be-part-of-it/events/bpm-camp-virtual- event?utm_ source=Sourceforge_BPM_Camp_5_6_15&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=VA_SF _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
