On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:28:57 +0200 Stefan Schmidt <ste...@osg.samsung.com> said:
> Hello. > > On 29/06/15 11:43, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:06:14 +0200 Stefan Schmidt <ste...@osg.samsung.com> > > said: > > > >> Hello. > >> > >> On 28/06/15 06:40, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 09:05:02 -0400 Christopher Michael > >>> <cpmich...@osg.samsung.com> said: > >>> > >>>> On 06/27/2015 01:14 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >>>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:11:45 -0400 Mike Blumenkrantz > >>>>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said: > >>>>> > >>>>>> With a few minor exceptions in Wayland, all target features for the E20 > >>>>>> release have been met. As such, I am planning to commence an > >>>>>> everything-but-wayland feature freeze on Friday, 3 July 2015. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If anyone has things that they want to push in or implement before the > >>>>>> freeze begins, I'm open to moving back the date as necessary--within > >>>>>> reason. I will not, however, be very receptive to adding new features > >>>>>> once the release cycle freeze has begun. > >>>>> actually - devilhorns. > >>>>> > >>>>> you need to pipe in here - what is the wayland state, and what would > >>>>> there be left to drop in after july 3 and what timetable? > >>>>> > >>>> As far as what is left: DnD needs a bit of testing/tweaking yet as there > >>>> are some little buggers floating in there (I'll be hacking on that come > >>>> Monday). We have pending patches to support wl_text_input and > >>>> wl_input_method (https://phab.enlightenment.org/D2275) however we cannot > >>>> "securely" push those until we have a working VKbd implementation to go > >>>> with them. I pinged shiin to see if he could also hack up a vkbd to go > >>>> with. > >>>> > >>>> While not a Top priority, support for wl_scaler and wl_viewport would be > >>>> remaining things to drop in after July 3. We have pending patches for > >>>> that also (https://phab.enlightenment.org/D2485) however those need some > >>>> refactoring. > >>>> > >>>>> i am saying this from the perspective that we get a fair number of > >>>>> "does e run wayland yet" kind of questions and the answer is always > >>>>> nebulous. i think we want a clear state of play for an e20 release. > >>>>> > >>>> While I have not tested it yet, Mike has updated/refactored my initial > >>>> XWayland branch and pushed that upstream already which means we should > >>>> have working XWayland support now. I've not tested it yet myself however > >>>> he did manage to get Firefox running with it (which is good news) :) > >>>> > >>>> E/Elm apps are running good in E-Wl. Gtk apps also (tho Some gtk apps > >>>> have popup menu placement issues according to Phab reports). I don't > >>>> suspect that those are Major issues and likely will take little time to > >>>> fix. > >>>> > >>>> QT apps on the other hand are a whole different can of worms. Apparenly, > >>>> QT5 has not been updated yet to support xdg_shell version 5 which means, > >>>> while the apps do run, they have quite a few issues. I spoke with RzR > >>>> about it and he plans to update QT5 to support xdg_shell version 5 which > >>>> should address issues there. > >>>> > >>>> There are a few pending buggers listed on Phab which I/we will be > >>>> addressing in the coming weeks tho I don't think any of them are Major > >>>> problems (in terms of functionality). > >>>> > >>>> It is likely that I may be forgetting something in this list, so if you > >>>> can think of something I may have missed, please ask. > >>> the question reading between the lines from users is: > >>> > >>> "can i now use E20 to switch to wayland?" > >>> > >>> :) > >>> > >>> i've talked with you about this - i know that i personally can't. my 2 > >>> main desktop systems have new nvidia rigs and literally have zero nouveau > >>> support. i know i'm not the only one and for many nouveau is still iffy. i > >>> am sure we could get more people working on wayland if we could run "e in > >>> a window" in x11 > >>> - ie wl-x11. like weston does. with a but of imagination it'd be possible > >>> to get full acceleration for egl working too. > >>> > >>> from a pr point of view, for many people they'd like to "see how e wayland > >>> is going" without having to drop out of x11 to do it. this'd help answer a > >>> lot of questions people have. :) it'd also mean a LOT more helping getting > >>> wayland moving along. > >>> > >>> btw - how goes session recovering with uuid's etc. ... stefan? > >> The uuid store is in for some time. I have branch with a wayland > >> protocol extension to pass the uuid arround which I can push in later > >> today or tomorrow. > >> What is still missing the re-connect handling, keeping apps alive and > >> making sure they come back correctly when the compositor comes back. > > thats a necessary part of the uuid thing. it needs all of these done to be > > "done": > > > > 1. store of uuids that survives e segs/restarts correctly (tho not > > logout/in) > > Its a mmaped object named /e_uuid_store and E checks for it during > start/restart. What information will be applied is policy and part of #4. > > > 2. protocol to assign uuids and pass them around back to comp > > That is what I will put in today or tomorrow. > > 3. reconnect code that correctly uses assigned uuids > > I played around with that but did not had it working so far. That is the > bigger part of what is missing. > > 4. code to restore state of windows with these uuids based on store in #1 > > Once #3 works reliable this should not be to complicated. > > > :) > > > > sounds like you're missing some bits. :) we need all 4 bits. :) > > Correct analysis. :) > Its these pieces I need to spent my time on after the vacation to get > them working for e20. less vacating... more finishing. :) enjoy your time off. just a poke about the above as without all the pieces, this feature "doesn't exist". if it works and has some niggly bugs - then i'd cal the feature done but needs debugging more. :) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't Limit Your Business. Reach for the Cloud. 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