On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:44:25 +0200 Davide Andreoli <[email protected]>
said:

> 2015-08-11 2:08 GMT+02:00 Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>:
> 
> > On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 08:15:05 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <[email protected]>
> > said:
> >
> > > Apparently this issue is related to my Elm theme.
> > >
> > > Are we ever going to stop breaking the theme API?
> >
> > we didn't break theme api. perhaps your theme was broken to begin with and
> > only
> > now is showing up? you do claim to not know edje at all and thus it is
> > quite
> > likely that this is the case.
> >
> 
> No, raster, you are wrong: we didn't change the theme api, but we probably
> changed
> the behavior, I think that the offending commit is:

that's a bug. we should have no theme api breaks (unless as tom said before -
it was already fundamentally broken and unusable anyway).

> https://phab.enlightenment.org/rELM9c8ddce6179253487dd01730a55de1f5273b498e
> 
> There is a "min: 240 0;" added to the "elm/popup/content/popup/default"
> group.
> The lacks of MIN in older themes cause the popups to show up shrinked
> in elm 1.15.

i'ts a bug... and it appears my advice was not heeded - make the scroller an
explicit option you enable for new behavior. then nothing changes/breaks...
unless someone asks for the new feature (and thus have to deal with the
implications - eg if popup isnt set to expand on its own - eg weight/fill wise,
then it will squash content down to almost nothing due to scroller).

the point here is - this is a bug. theme api didn't change. someone added a
feature in a way that breaks existing behavior. :)

> > just saying - making an assumption like "it only affects my theme, thus the
> > theme api broke" is a pretty poor assumption to make.
> >
> > if i wrote an app that accessed memory after it was freed - immediately
> > after,
> > and it worked for years, then suddenly started crashing.. and i blame the
> > kernel devs or libc devs for breaking api... what do you think the response
> > would be?
> >
> > before launching into "it's a theme api break" which we have been very
> > careful
> > to not do, how about know the root cause first? eg - what is the difference
> > between your theme and default in this scenario that causes this change?
> > you
> > also know that depending on situation themes can be timing sensitive
> > because
> > they may react to signals that then generate more signals that generate
> > more...
> > etc. and different themes may generate different signals and different
> > sequences and amounts.
> >
> > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Jeff Hoogland <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think my issue is different from yours as it is still present in the
> > > > release tar.
> > > >
> > > > This one is going to block me from releasing 1.15 to the Bodhi stable
> > repo
> > > > since it breaks one of our default applications.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Tom Hacohen <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 06/08/15 23:37, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
> > > >> > Finally got around to getting on the latest EFL / Elm with the
> > latest
> > > >> > release. One of my popups in epad is messed up with this version.
> > This
> > > >> is
> > > >> > what it looks like with EFL / ELM 1.12:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-55c3e0bcda5169.10806046.jpg
> > > >> >
> > > >> > And with EFL / ELM 1.15:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > https://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-55c3dfa2431c27.18476780.jpg
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Same exact code for both images.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Source is here <
> > https://github.com/JeffHoogland/ePad/blob/master/epad>,
> > > >> > popup is built starting at line 449.
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> Weird, my email from last night never went through.
> > > >>
> > > >> Anyhow, as I said there, I already spotted it, opened a ticket, and it
> > > >> was meant to be fixed: https://phab.enlightenment.org/T2623
> > > >>
> > > >> Is it not? :(
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Tom.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > >
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