On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 16:13:23 +0100 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> said:

> On 31/03/16 03:51, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 15:48:15 +0100 Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> said:
> >
> >> You're a bit inconsistent on the wiki page.
> >> In some places you use lower case letters at the beginning of class
> >> names, in others upper case. In some cases you put a space after a
> >> class, in some not. Please take care of that.
> >> There are even more spacing mistakes/confusions all around, for example
> >> in the last example in snippets there is an extra space before Box.
> >
> > yeah. spacing is a bit "all over the place". indenting too. mostly 3 space,s
> > sometimes 2...
> >
> >> Content format: I know we talked about describing the "packing" in
> >> Eolian. We said we'd just mark functions/properties with @packer or
> >> something, right? Maybe mention it in the wiki.
> >>
> >> snippet: I feel like there should be a better name for that. No need to
> >> use the Android naming.
> >
> > hmm i came up with snippet independently of android... it just was the best
> > name for a "reusable unit to copy & paste (by reference) around".
> >
> > the fact i and android re-used the same name... smells like its a good one?
> > do you have a better name then? that is short and easy to understand?
> 
> OK, then I'm fine with it. I thought it was just copying Android. You 
> coming up with the same name independently is a good sign.
> 
> >
> >> I really don't like the way you suggested to customise snippets. I
> >> really don't like it. There must be a better way. Also, using the "id"
> >> as a type all of sudden is weird and confusing. I really dislike all of
> >> this, I think we need to get back to the drawing board for this one.
> >>
> >> I don't get why resources are done this way. I much prefer
> >> res("path/layout.edj") or even just a list of resources, why the
> >> "images" and "edje"? I guess for embedding edje compilation. I think
> >> that's wrong putting it in this tool.
> >
> > actually done even do res()... just make it part of the path:
> >
> > "@data/path/layout.edj"
> 
> Maybe:
> 
> @"path/layout.edj" ?
> 
> Just an idea.

actually i made a start on "vpath" for just this reason so we can settle this
and bury things like ~/ @appdata/ http://... etc. into file paths. so whatever
format this accepts for file paths is what will "work". what formats it
supports is up for debate though. i dont see why this needs to tag it
outside the string though?

> > we can discuss the @data or whatever syntax later - but this is simply
> > handled in efl itself as we talked about with "magic file paths". whatever
> > format is done there - this willl do the same. :) isn't that better?
> >
> >> Looking at the format example at the end of the wiki page, it's
> >> inconsistent and outdated, please update it with the definitive format.
> >>
> >>
> >> As a side note, I don't like the way the discussions over this are being
> >> done. We just get random rewrites once every few weeks. Version 1, 2 and
> >> 3 are very different, and there's no explanation to why things were
> >> changed or done in the ways they were done. I have seen no comments from
> >> anyone on the ML or anything, just completely new versions that improve
> >> in some aspects are get worse in others without any specific comments or
> >> discussions. I expect to see something like: "we changed it to this
> >> because X, Y and Z. Unfortunately there was an issue with our previous
> >> idea that this one solves, but there are new caveats, bla bla bla."
> >>
> >>
> >> Other than the above (and the comments below), it looks good and is
> >> getting better, I'm just asking for an easier to follow process and some
> >> corrections. Sorry if it comes across a bit bitchy. :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Answers to your questions:
> >>
> >> On 28/03/16 16:04, Yakov Goldberg wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>> I'd like to initiate last call discussion on UI syntax.
> >>>
> >>> Wiki is here:https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/ui_builders_format/
> >>>
> >>> If you have any objections or ideas, please share.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Also some notes:
> >>>
> >>> As I understood from previous discussion, most like 4-spaced indentation.
> >>> But maybe we shouldn't stick with exact number? Think of case like this:
> >>>
> >>> window
> >>>         layout
> >>>             part["part1"]: box(id = "box1")
> >>>                            button(text="button")
> >>>             part["long_part_name"]: table(id = "table2")
> >>>                                        pack[0, 0, 1, 1]: image(file =
> >>> "logo.png") part["short_name"]: table(id = "table2")
> >>>
> >>> Should user be able to align text like this?
> >>>
> >>> window
> >>>         layout
> >>>             part["part1"]:          box(id = "box1")
> >>>                                         button(text="button")
> >>>             part["long_part_name"]: table(id = "table1")
> >>>                                         pack[0, 0, 1, 1]: image(file =
> >>> "logo.png") part["short_name"]:     table(id = "table2")
> >>>                                         pack[0, 1, 1, 1]: image(file =
> >>> "logo2.png")
> >>
> >> Decide, either:
> >> part["part1"]: Box
> >>       Button
> >>
> >> Or:
> >>
> >> part["part1"]: Box
> >>                      Button
> >>
> >> Don't allow both. The second one is probably better, though a bit
> >> over-indented.
> >>
> >> I'd avoid things like you second suggestion, that is, aligning box and
> >> the tables to the same column, adds so much manual maintenance without
> >> any benefits.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Snippets:
> >>> As I said before snippets should be customizable, so user could check
> >>> properties, add callbacks., etc.
> >>> Thus updated suggested format is:
> >>>
> >>> box(id="mybox")
> >>>         button(id="but1")
> >>>         image(id="img1")
> >>>
> >>> window
> >>>         layout
> >>>             part["a"]: snippet.mybox (id="mybox1")
> >>>                                 but1(text = "text", img1.file =
> >>> "logo.png") on("clicked", "func_name")
> >>>                                 img1(file = "logo.png")
> >>
> >> See my comments above, I hate this.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> Should all files(paths) be defined as resources, so generator will be
> >>> able to generate paths properly?
> >>>
> >>>       resources
> >>>           images
> >>>               "bg":"images/background.png"
> >>>               "logo":"images/logo.png"
> >>>           edje
> >>>               "edje_res":["path/layout.edj", "path/layout.edc"]
> >>>
> >>>       window
> >>>           layout(file=res("edje_res"))
> >>>              part["a"]: button(icon = res("logo"))
> >>>
> >>
> >> I don't understand this question, but I have commented on resources above.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom.
> >>
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