2016-07-25 20:15 GMT+02:00 Bertrand Jacquin <bertr...@jacquin.bzh>:

> On 23/07/2016 07:54, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 08:29:54 +0200 Davide Andreoli <
>> d...@gurumeditation.it>
>> said:
>>
>> 2016-07-08 4:40 GMT+02:00 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>:
>>>
>>> > On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:12:43 +0200 Davide Andreoli <
>>> d...@gurumeditation.it
>>> > >
>>> > said:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > seems we lost the wiki intro page
>>> > >
>>> > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/
>>> > >
>>> > > There was an handwritten index page there, now the wiki is totally
>>> > > unusable/unbrowsable
>>> > >
>>> > > some idea?
>>> >
>>> > yeah. i saw, and could find no info as to what happened to it. like
>>> > history or
>>> > anything.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> news about this?
>>> the wiki is still unusable, lots of contents are unreachable/unfindable.
>>> Also we where maintaining the list of know/stable/unstable applications
>>> in that initial page.
>>>
>>> don't we have backups?
>>>
>>
>> no. all content is in a mysql/maraidb database. there is no history of
>> that page
>> existing. i looked. i can't even find a transaction entry int he
>> transaction
>> table. the content is gone.
>>
>
> I have backup of this, it might not be super fresh, but let me take a look.
>

Great thanks! we have spent lots of time on that lost page


>
> BUT all content is reachable. ALL wiki content is indexed there by default.
>>
>> as i replied to a recent bug ticket where someone took over the main
>> index wiki
>> page and made it uneditable/viewable by anyone but them (the ONLY way to
>> fix
>> this was to dig through the database using sql and change a table entry),
>> that
>> this is probably a good reason to move stuff over to
>> www.enlightenment.org
>> dokuwiki wiki. it is backed by git so all changes get an email with the
>> diff to
>> commits mailing list and it contains ALL history so you can revert/go back
>> unlike phab.
>>
>
> As you say here, should we continue to allow write of phab wiki ?
> Shouldn't we move all the wiki content to dokuwiki ?
>

TBO I like the separation we have now between the "official presentation
site" (dokuwiki) and the "user editable wiki" (the phab one). If we go to
use only dokuwiki there is the risk of make the frontend site a great mess
of contents.

In the last 8 years (or so) we changed our wiki 4 times (our php cm, trac,
phab and now dokuwiki). This has been a great mess and a lot of contents
has been lost, without thinking at the mess in the search engines: if you
search about efl stuff on google the majority of the times you get a result
that no more exists :(

All our wiki instances was always been quite messy in the contents
organization, I really think we need a single person that do some sort of
moderation on the contents, at least for the organization of the content
structure...
...hmmm, yes, ok... I'm willing to take this hard work done, but keep in
mind that I'm quite a perfectionists so I will be an hard-dictator on that
:)


>
> --
> Bertrand
>
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