On Mon, 25 Jul 2016 21:49:04 +0200 Davide Andreoli <d...@gurumeditation.it>
said:

> 2016-07-25 20:15 GMT+02:00 Bertrand Jacquin <bertr...@jacquin.bzh>:
> 
> > On 23/07/2016 07:54, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 08:29:54 +0200 Davide Andreoli <
> >> d...@gurumeditation.it>
> >> said:
> >>
> >> 2016-07-08 4:40 GMT+02:00 Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>:
> >>>
> >>> > On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:12:43 +0200 Davide Andreoli <
> >>> d...@gurumeditation.it
> >>> > >
> >>> > said:
> >>> >
> >>> > > Hi,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > seems we lost the wiki intro page
> >>> > >
> >>> > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/
> >>> > >
> >>> > > There was an handwritten index page there, now the wiki is totally
> >>> > > unusable/unbrowsable
> >>> > >
> >>> > > some idea?
> >>> >
> >>> > yeah. i saw, and could find no info as to what happened to it. like
> >>> > history or
> >>> > anything.
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> news about this?
> >>> the wiki is still unusable, lots of contents are unreachable/unfindable.
> >>> Also we where maintaining the list of know/stable/unstable applications
> >>> in that initial page.
> >>>
> >>> don't we have backups?
> >>>
> >>
> >> no. all content is in a mysql/maraidb database. there is no history of
> >> that page
> >> existing. i looked. i can't even find a transaction entry int he
> >> transaction
> >> table. the content is gone.
> >>
> >
> > I have backup of this, it might not be super fresh, but let me take a look.
> >
> 
> Great thanks! we have spent lots of time on that lost page
> 
> 
> >
> > BUT all content is reachable. ALL wiki content is indexed there by default.
> >>
> >> as i replied to a recent bug ticket where someone took over the main
> >> index wiki
> >> page and made it uneditable/viewable by anyone but them (the ONLY way to
> >> fix
> >> this was to dig through the database using sql and change a table entry),
> >> that
> >> this is probably a good reason to move stuff over to
> >> www.enlightenment.org
> >> dokuwiki wiki. it is backed by git so all changes get an email with the
> >> diff to
> >> commits mailing list and it contains ALL history so you can revert/go back
> >> unlike phab.
> >>
> >
> > As you say here, should we continue to allow write of phab wiki ?
> > Shouldn't we move all the wiki content to dokuwiki ?
> >
> 
> TBO I like the separation we have now between the "official presentation
> site" (dokuwiki) and the "user editable wiki" (the phab one). If we go to
> use only dokuwiki there is the risk of make the frontend site a great mess
> of contents.

the front end wiki is just as editable as phab. i think much of the phab
content should move to the main www. not all though. things like documents just
for developrs, or documents that keep changing like a proposed standard/idea
etc. should stay in phab.

> In the last 8 years (or so) we changed our wiki 4 times (our php cm, trac,
> phab and now dokuwiki). This has been a great mess and a lot of contents
> has been lost, without thinking at the mess in the search engines: if you
> search about efl stuff on google the majority of the times you get a result
> that no more exists :(
> 
> All our wiki instances was always been quite messy in the contents
> organization, I really think we need a single person that do some sort of
> moderation on the contents, at least for the organization of the content
> structure...
> ...hmmm, yes, ok... I'm willing to take this hard work done, but keep in
> mind that I'm quite a perfectionists so I will be an hard-dictator on that
> :)

hehehehe. i agree that cleaning and reorg are needed. as above. there's a fair
bit of content in phab's wiki that should be "official and cleanly laid out".
phab can remain for messy/ore fluid/temporary stuff or things just speicifc to
internal development.

> 
> >
> > --
> > Bertrand
> >
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