Hello.

On 06/02/17 10:33, Jean-Philippe André wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 1 February 2017 at 23:46, Stefan Schmidt <ste...@osg.samsung.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello.
>>
>> On 12/12/16 11:34, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Next try. People started to ask me about 1.19 again more recently so
>>> here is my new schedule proposal for 1.19.
>>>
>>> 2016-08-11 Merge window for 1.19 opens
>>> 2017-02-07 Merge window is over.
>>>   * Only bug fixes from this point
>>>   * Alpha release tarball
>>>   * One month stabilization phase starts
>>> 2017-02-13 Beta1 release tarball
>>>   * Only critical fixes from this point
>>> 2017-02-20 Beta2 release tarball
>>> 2017-02-27 Beta3 release tarball
>>> 2017-03-06 EFL 1.19 is out (First Monday in March)
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>
>> I heard two people in favor and no complains. If you want to postpone
>> this state this NOW or I will proceed as the above schedule.
>>
>
> I'm currently working on improving the Gfx Filters (evas filters for blur,
> etc...), adding new features and moving to GL. I don't know exactly how
> long I still need but I'm not ready right now to merge this work in
> progress unless we disable the GL accel by default (fine by me).

What is so important about it that is has to be in this release? Why is 
the next one not good enough for it?

> As for the EO interfaces we are obviously not ready to finalize now.

And how making this a blocker for the release turned out you have seen 
last year already? Same mistakes all over again?

> Cmake is also work in progress...

I already stated before that I'm not going to wait for cmake to be 
default in 1.19. This effort needs a lot more time and I want at least 
one more release where autotools is the default. Its not even near 
completion of what we have with autotools right now.

> So I'm just wondering: what are we trying to achieve by releasing now?

Pretty simple. Getting all the code we did since August last year to our 
actual users. I think there has been a lot of worthy changes for a release.

> I'm not saying we shouldn't release but I wonder if we should stop
> development and go on a bug hunt for the next month (ie. delay EO
> interfaces again a bit more).

I really wonder what happened in the EFL community regarding releases 
over the last 9 months or so. We had a pretty solid run with the 3 
months release schedule. People did know what they could expect. 
Developers when to get their code in and distributions and users when a 
new release will come out.

Every time a propose a release schedule now someone steps up and thinks 
that we should wait for feature n and also feature n+1. Even if we do 
not know how long this will take. Basically the feature based releases 
mindset from efl before 1.0. :)

I start to wonder if it is just total bias I have here when thinking 
that the time based releases have been a big step forward. Maybe it the 
rest of the community actually wants to have feature based releases and 
is fine with waiting a year or two for such a release. I really do not 
know anymore. :) If that turns out to be the case I would gladly hand 
over (not bad blood involved at all).

regards
Stefan Schmidt

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