On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 11:56:38 +0900 Jean-Philippe André <j...@videolan.org> said:
> My only point with gl filters, eo intf and cmake is that we have those > works in progress that need to be put on hold if we're intent on doing this > release properly. In other words: stop developing in branches, except for > the regular rebase on master, and focus on fixing existing issues. this is an issue. the cmake work has to stop then. well it can go off to a branch... but it cant happen in master. > >> So I'm just wondering: what are we trying to achieve by releasing now? > > > > > > Pretty simple. Getting all the code we did since August last year to our > > > actual users. I think there has been a lot of worthy changes for a > > release. > > > > also big YES :-) > > > > Like I'd love to see efl_net being tested in the field as it's what > > ecore_con uses internally to provide legacy, as well as people being > > able to use the Eo API directly. > > > > People can't use the EO API directly. Or are we declaring EO stable now? If > so we need to properly separate which EO APIs are "final" and which are > still work in progress (all UI). So, efl_net will be tested only through > ecore_con. > > efl_net itself will wait until the rest of EO is released. Or did I miss > something? i really don't see that there is *ANY* value in "releasing eo api" unless we ALSO release interfaces that work on top of it. until then its academic and pointless. > > Time-based releases keep the expectations if they are followed. Once > > we miss the frame, we start to have this feature-based releases ("oh, > > waited so long, can wait a bit more") and when people work > > independently, they always have some in-flux work that could get in... > > so at some point these guys will want to delay a bit more so their > > work gets in as well... endless wait -- AKA e17/efl-1.0 > > > > IOW: just do it, and let's not miss the 3 month schedule next time. ;-) > > > > I agree. I didn't mean to disagree, I just wanted the question to be raised. > And yes, we shouldn't have postponed this release so much once we realised > that the EO APIs would not be ready so soon. > > In fact it would probably be safer to strictly stick to the 3 months > schedule and postpone features rather than postponing releases. then we need to pause various work and stop doing any eo/interfaces work or filters, cmake etc. and get down to bug fixing if we are to do a release... -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel