No, connection refused on any attempt to any vm on ssh or http(s)...
On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 10:41, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:49:27 +0000 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me>
> said:
>
> > Maybe there is a routing issue in there too then, as I was struggling to
> > get any connection at all for an hour or three?
>
> could you get to e5?
>
> > Andy
> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 00:47, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:25:14 +0000 Andrew Williams <
> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > said:
> > >
> > > > It seems to be back now without a kick... Is there stuff going on at
> the
> > > > moment?
> > >
> > > i don't know. when i saw your mail i checked. all was up... i moved
> on. i
> > > have
> > > disabled the logrotate daily crons in e5v1 and www/git ... because
> because
> > > the
> > > going down suspiciously coincided with these. i've disabled auditing in
> > > libvirt
> > > too... i just want to get things working and then figure out which
> level i
> > > pulled did it. maybe one of the levers i pulled di it? e5v1, www, have
> > > been up
> > > over 1 whole day so not one rebooted them. 35 has now been up 2 days
> (last
> > > time
> > > there was an issue i restarted libvirt and its guests only and things
> > > worked
> > > again).
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 15:30 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Today it died between 1 and 2pm UTC...
> > > > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 at 16:26, Carsten Haitzler <
> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 15:20:48 +0000 Andrew Williams <
> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> said:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Thanks to whoever kicked the server just now :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> me :)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Are we any closer to what might be triggering this as soon as
> the
> > > > >> weekend
> > > > >> > starts? ;)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> no. i've experimented with disabling cron.daily things on e5... it
> > > does
> > > > >> seem
> > > > >> that now shutting down vm's and bringing them back up works now
> kvm
> > > is a
> > > > >> module... ? hmmm.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Andy
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 at 18:47 Andrew Williams <
> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > It looks like the new key did work after all - but in the
> > > confiscation
> > > > >> > > about ensuring no proxies were set up I accidentally deleted
> the
> > > line
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> > > config that sets the username.
> > > > >> > > Either way I can now long in, thanks.
> > > > >> > > Now at least I can kick the server if/when it's not accessible
> > > this
> > > > >> > > weekend.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Andy
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 17:14 Andrew Williams <
> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> I have upgrade my key to a 4096 and using this new one I can
> use
> > > git
> > > > >> over
> > > > >> > >> ssh but cannot access e5 through ssh - same as with my old
> key.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Andy
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 13:39 Andrew Williams <
> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >>> It's E5 that won't let me in (no proxy of course)
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 10:48, Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > >> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > >> > >>> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:03:04 +0000 Andrew Williams <
> > > > >> > >>>> a...@andywilliams.me> said:
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > As of Monday morning git was working well again (both
> https
> > > and
> > > > >> > >>>> git+ssh
> > > > >> > >>>> > working fine).
> > > > >> > >>>> > I still do not have ssh access back - one machine noted
> the
> > > > >> following:
> > > > >> > >>>> >
> > > > >> > >>>> >
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> > > > >> > >>>> > @    WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
>  @
> > > > >> > >>>> >
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> > > > >> > >>>> > IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
> > > > >> > >>>> >
> > > > >> > >>>> > If I accept the new identity I get "Permission denied
> > > > >> (publickey)."
> > > > >> > >>>> > Same key as I've been using for a year or 3 (2048 bits)
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> mine's 4096 bits... and it works. i believe simotek moved
> to
> > > 4096
> > > > >> too
> > > > >> > >>>> and then
> > > > >> > >>>> it worked. what machine is that?
> > > > >> > >>>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > Thanks,
> > > > >> > >>>> > Andy
> > > > >> > >>>> >
> > > > >> > >>>> > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 08:30 Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > >> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:16:30 +0000 Andrew Williams <
> > > > >> > >>>> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > said:
> > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > These reports were related to the weekend when
> access was
> > > > >> very
> > > > >> > >>>> difficult
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > indeed. Whilst I'm thrilled that everything is up
> now I
> > > don't
> > > > >> > >>>> think that
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > should invalidate the fact we had a lot of issues on
> > > > >> Saturday and
> > > > >> > >>>> Sunday.
> > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh/git never stopped working for me... so i don't
> have any
> > > > >> idea
> > > > >> > >>>> why. is it
> > > > >> > >>>> > > working for you now?
> > > > >> > >>>> > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > Andy
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 at 06:07, Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:27:05 +0000 Andrew Williams
> <
> > > > >> > >>>> > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > said:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hmm well the server isn't down... it's up and
> working,
> > > www
> > > > >> is
> > > > >> > >>>> working.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > ssh
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > works for me... i currently don't know why you are
> > > having
> > > > >> ssh
> > > > >> > >>>> > > issues... :/
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > No, I have no proxy commands set up. I have no
> > > > >> peculiarity in
> > > > >> > >>>> > > networking.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > The physical location and method of connecting
> were
> > > the
> > > > >> same
> > > > >> > >>>> as I
> > > > >> > >>>> > > have
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > been
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > using for months. The connection was unreliable
> at
> > > best
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > >> > >>>> > > worse as
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Saturday wore on.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Some times I could reach the server and connect.
> Some
> > > > >> times I
> > > > >> > >>>> got
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > rejected.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Other times I got no response.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Additionally I was not the only one. Those on IRC
> > > were
> > > > >> > >>>> agreeing that
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > connection was unreliable at best.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > Andy
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 at 08:33 Carsten Haitzler <
> > > > >> > >>>> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 23:32:25 +0000 Andrew
> Williams
> > > <
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > said:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > After an hour of trying to get through to
> our git
> > > > >> server
> > > > >> > >>>> I'm now
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > giving
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > up
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > for the night.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > I understand that there is an unknown problem
> > > that
> > > > >> needs
> > > > >> > >>>> to be
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > gotten to
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > the bottom of but I don't understand why
> those
> > > who
> > > > >> were
> > > > >> > >>>> able to
> > > > >> > >>>> > > help
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > no
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > longer have access.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Can someone in the know please communicate
> what
> > > is
> > > > >> going
> > > > >> > >>>> on? I
> > > > >> > >>>> > > know
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > that
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > we
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > are getting our hosting provided kindly for
> free
> > > but
> > > > >> > >>>> There are so
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > many
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > free
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > hosting solutions for open source projects I
> > > don't
> > > > >> get it
> > > > >> > >>>> - we
> > > > >> > >>>> > > were
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > afraid
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > of the stability of "the new sourceforge" but
> > > GitHub,
> > > > >> > >>>> despite
> > > > >> > >>>> > > high
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > criticism for its downtime, has been
> unavailable
> > > for
> > > > >> > >>>> barely 2
> > > > >> > >>>> > > days
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > over
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > the
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > last 2 years...
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > do you have a proxy thing for git.e.org in
> your
> > > ssh
> > > > >> > >>>> config. i can
> > > > >> > >>>> > > get
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > to
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > git.e.org no problems. all weekend. i didn't
> have
> > > > >> issues.
> > > > >> > >>>> my
> > > > >> > >>>> > > email was
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > down
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > though (separate issue)...
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > Andy
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 22:41, jaquilina <
> > > > >> > >>>> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net
> > > > >> > >>>> > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > All I know is that beber adding my ssh key
> to
> > > the
> > > > >> > >>>> system and
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > reencrypted
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > the credentials store which could be the
> root
> > > > >> cause of
> > > > >> > >>>> these
> > > > >> > >>>> > > issues
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > with
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > git over ssh
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > -------- Original message --------
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > From: Andrew Williams <
> a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > Date: 15/07/2017 22:59 (GMT+01:00)
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > To: Jonathan Aquilina <
> jaquil...@eagleeyet.net
> > > >,
> > > > >> > >>>> Enlightenment
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > developer
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > list <
> > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Server down
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > Correction, for git I'm getting either
> > > connection
> > > > >> > >>>> closed or
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > permission
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > denied... every 5th or so connection makes
> it
> > > > >> through.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 20:46, Andrew
> Williams <
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > a...@andywilliams.me>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Hi,
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks to whoever prodded it. Now git and
> web
> > > are
> > > > >> > >>>> working
> > > > >> > >>>> > > again.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> I use git+ssh and it is working OK (on
> and off
> > > > >> > >>>> actually) but I
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > can't
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > get
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> in through ssh any more. Bu5hm4n and
> others
> > > have
> > > > >> noted
> > > > >> > >>>> the
> > > > >> > >>>> > > same
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > thing. Have
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> permissions on SSH been altered?
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> Andy
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 at 15:06 Jonathan
> > > Aquilina <
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > jaquil...@eagleeyet.net>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> I think that it might be worth
> contacting the
> > > > >> hosting
> > > > >> > >>>> > > provider
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > as I
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > am
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> wondering if they are doing something
> with
> > > their
> > > > >> > >>>> network
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > hardware or
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > maybe
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> something that is causing our server to
> > > really
> > > > >> not be
> > > > >> > >>>> happy.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> ---
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Jonathan Aquilina
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> On 2017-07-15 15:59, Derek Foreman wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Somewhat related, I've been monitoring
> the
> > > > >> server with
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > "smokeping"
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > for a
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> few weeks now, and the majority of the
> > > blackouts
> > > > >> start
> > > > >> > >>>> > > between
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > 5AM
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > and
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> 5:10AM north american central time (10ish
> > > UTC I
> > > > >> > >>>> guess?)
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Sometimes they clear in under an hour (I
> > > don't
> > > > >> know
> > > > >> > >>>> if this
> > > > >> > >>>> > > is an
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> automatic recovery or manual
> intervention).
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> During the blackouts generally the git
> > > server is
> > > > >> > >>>> partially
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > responsive
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> and the web server is completely borked.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Today's blackout started between 5:00AM
> and
> > > > >> 5:10AM
> > > > >> > >>>> CST.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > Currently
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > the
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> git server is semi responsive and the web
> > > server
> > > > >> is
> > > > >> > >>>> hosed.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> I don't know if that gives any useful
> input
> > > into
> > > > >> > >>>> tracking
> > > > >> > >>>> > > down
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > what's
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> knocking over the house of cards (or if
> > > knowing
> > > > >> what's
> > > > >> > >>>> > > knocking
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > it
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > over is
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> even useful), but there ya go. :D
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Derek
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> On 2017-07-15 05:26 AM, Andrew Williams
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> That's the server keeled over again. I
> would
> > > fix
> > > > >> it
> > > > >> > >>>> but today
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > it's
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> rejecting my login.
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Can someone please help, I was in the
> middle
> > > of a
> > > > >> > >>>> bunch of
> > > > >> > >>>> > > work
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > on
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> docuwiki that I would like to complete?
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Thanks,
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>> Andy
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>
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> > > > >> > >>>> > > > > > >
> > > > >> > >>>> > > > >
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> > >
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