On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 08:31:07 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:27:35 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> babbled:
> 
> > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:45:08 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:01:45 -0300 Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> > > 
> > > > If I could configure the keybindings through a text file* ,
> > > > changing dozens of keybindings would probably be as simple as a
> > > > query replace.
> > > 
> > > like what? i hope you know by heart all the x keysym names then!
> > > what about the modifier your press? do you know if its Meta?
> > > Hyper? Super? What's the Keysym or Keycode for the play/pause
> > > button on your keyboard? what about the "Shuffle" button? E
> > > manages to remove needing to know any of this - it takes it from
> > > INPUT. if you need a feature (like having a universal modifier
> > > and changing it for all bindings) then say so and we can add it
> > > to the UI. simply relying on text editing as a crutch is a bad
> > > thing.
> > > 
> > > > * I can do that now by telling enlightenment_remote to dump the
> > > > keybindings, then edit the resulting file, then tell
> > > > enlightenment_remote to delete the current keybindings, and then
> > > > tell enlightenment_remote to add the keybindings from the edited
> > > > dump. Sounds like it takes some time, but is far quickier than
> > > > it would be to use the Enlighenment's GUI and click on each
> > > > keybinding that needs changing. I do it all the time.
> > > 
> > > i really don't believe that. if you are doing this all the time -
> > > something is deeply wrong. you are literally en-masse changing
> > > keybindings all the time? why? i might touch them once on setup to
> > > add a few (eg my media keys), then not know or see the bindings
> > > for weeks or months - then need to add another to launch some app
> > > or whatever. why do you need to keep changing them?
> > 
> > Changing most usage of the ALT modifier to WIN is something I do,
> > but only on those odd occasions when I have to nuke my old config.
> > I use an enlightenment_remote based script for that.
> > 
> > This is because more often that not, the ALT modified key/mouse
> > bindings are used by other software that I use regularly.  The
> > Second Life client is the main culprit though.
> 
> at which point to me it says that we need to virtualise some
> modifiers - i.e. "wm modifier" and then let u set the "wm modifier"
> in just 1 place. maybe also have some key and mouse bindings disabled
> when certain windows are in focus. this stops you having to "change
> config" all the time and lets the wm do everything for you -
> automatically. 

Sounds good to me.

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