It would appear that on Feb 19, Kim Woelders did say:

> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:03:22 +0100, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook <jtw...@ttlc.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I really miss the way kde & even windblows let me select a resize
> > option from the win-ops menu and then use the arrow keys to resize
> > said window... (hitting enter when I'm happy with the result)
> 
> Actually, I have just added the move/resize using keyboard feature in
> e16(svn).
> 
> One way to activate move/resize by keyboard is to add e.g.
> 
> KeyDown CS m wop * move kbd
> KeyDown CS s wop * size kbd
> 
> in bindings.cfg to activate move/resize by ctrl-shift-m/s.

Thank you Kim.

I'll have to think long and hard about what keys I want to bind this
to... But now that I know the solution is "wop * (move/size) kbd"
It shall be done. Unless...
 
> Similar entries could of course be added to e.g. winops_size.menu if you
> want to select it from a menu, but IMO that kind of goes against the
> principle of wanting to use the keyboard :)

Yes and no. I like to use keyboard methods (not because I'm all that good
at memorizing commands and syntax, But because my mouse skills "stink" So
I always try to set up a FEW multi purpose shortcuts rather than several
single use ones. For example once I had a keyboard shortcut
"*_that_I_can_remember_*" set for the winops menu I quickly disabled
single purpose shortcuts to close, kill, minimize (err I guess that's
iconify), and maximize a window. This is not only because I'll forget the
ones I don't use, but also because the menu gives me the chance to think
if I really wanted to do this or did I just fat finger something...

At least with e16 I can control the menu contents. like for example
moving the winops functions I personally use only rarely to
winops|miscellaneous And now that I know how, add the resize and move
options I've been missing. I'm not so sure I can do that with e17...
So if I may have to memorize a couple of bindings their, I may as well
enable them here as well, to make switching back and forth between e16
& e17 as painless as possible.

Between the two however, I think I LIKE e16 best. Here's hoping it stays
a viable WM for a real long time. 

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