On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 01:54:05 -0400 P Purkayastha <ppu...@gmail.com> said:
> On Thursday 01 October 2009 20:33:53 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > IMO e17 isn't user friendly because the e17 coders expect to much > > knowledge from the users and even users with knowledge sometimes don't > > like to spend too much time to set up a DE. E17 is very particular > > about this. Just my impression. I guess his tone of voice was over the > > shoulder, but not bad. Again just my impression. > > I disagree with this statement. e17 is definitely not un-userfriendly. In > fact, the level of customization that you can do with just the graphical > customization dialogs is pretty extensive. The default settings are > something that I don't like but it doesn't take much effort to change that. that is something we had hoped to cure by profiels. thats why the first time u run e it presents several profiles to choose from - choose the one you like. it is defintiely possible we dont have one for everyone and likely never will, but we are more than happy to accept proposals (and actual patches) that provide profiels that people actually like by default. if enough people want a specific one we can add it in by default. at least in theory we have tried to address this with "options". > The range of customization options present allow you to make your windows > behave as close as possible to how you want them to behave. So, if one > doesn't want to spend time customizing, then one shouldn't complain > either. > > You can see the amount of hard work and thought the devs have put into the > configuration dialogs. I have seen these dialogs change multiple times over > the years. The end result is that the dialogs fit even in very small > screens (such as 640x480). Try doing the same with the configuration > dialogs of other DEs. :) we try. it's not perfect. there is much work to be done, but .. it's being worked on. > Some things such as the arrangement of modules on shelves remain the same > (for me at least) irrespective of how many times I switch between a > 640x480 and 1680x1050 screen. (I change my screen resolution so that I can > watch *smooth* netflix video in virtualbox). Such simple things are > invisible and when they "just work" no one notices. > > The above are just two instances that I can recall right now. Most of the > time you don't even notice when things work and you are not presented with > any surprises. indeed that is so true. people don;t notice (or say wow/thanks) when things "just magically work". some things e17 is very good at making "just magically work". other things its bad at. people complain bitterly about these but never say much about the good bits :) why? they don't notice. something "just worked". it didn't get in their way. you can never make everyone happy with "1 configuration, 1 way to do things", but allowing flexibility to do it differently and making it easier to access that "different way" is a key to making more people happier more often. :) -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
