On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:17:11 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> said:

e would have to write out an xcusros theme file and this does not guarantee
apps will re-load and use it on theme change. i have no plans to do this. got
enough to do.

> I'm talking about having E do it automatically and changing it when you
> change themes, not the user doing it manually after the fact.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:49:01 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> > said:
> >
> > thats the same as the xcusor theme matching hack you dont like.
> >
> > > Would it be possible to snag one spare image out of the evas canvas of
> > the
> > > cursor and set it as the X cursor so it at least made the whole thing
> > feel a
> > > bit more seamless with non-EFL applications?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 18:30:15 -0500 Jeff Hoogland
> > <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> > > > said:
> > > >
> > > > the toolkit STILL sets it. they just load the same boring xcursor theme
> > and
> > > > set
> > > > the same cursor image. xcursor images are simple still images (or
> > series of
> > > > them0 e's cursor is a whole evas canvas and edje object.
> > > >
> > > > > Why is it the X cursor works then?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Carsten Haitzler <
> > ras...@rasterman.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:47:41 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <
> > > > jeffhoogl...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > said:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no. it's not possible. the cursor is set BY the app (or its
> > toolkit) ON
> > > > its
> > > > > > own
> > > > > > windows. the wm has no choice and gets no intercept method etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > While these hacks are useful is there any way a true fix could be
> > > > written
> > > > > > > into E somehow? Really makes the desktop feel unfinished when
> > > > everything
> > > > > > else
> > > > > > > is fairly polished looking.
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > ~Jeff Hoogland
> > > > > > > http://JeffHoogland.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue Jul 19 2011 01:34:01 PM CDT, Martin Koelewijn
> > > > > > > <martinkoelew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You could use the cursor theme from here as a workaround
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://e17-stuff.org/content/show.php/default+e17+theme+X11+cursor?content=112877
> > > > > > > > to fall back to, so you won't notice that much. I just have
> > that
> > > > > > > > theme in ~/.icons and point to that in .Xdefaults
> > (Xcursor.theme:
> > > > > > > > e17cur) and in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 (gtk-cursor-theme-name="e17cur").
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:34:56 -0300
> > > > > > > > Wido <wido...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Jeff, I've seen this forever in E17. The E cursos, in some
> > apps,
> > > > > > > > > fallback to the X curosr (whatever they are). It happens in
> > KDE
> > > > apps.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've never asked why (shame on me), but I have switched to
> > the X
> > > > > > > > > cursors and chosen one of the oxygen cursors theme
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2011/7/19 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Howdy All,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I was wondering if there is any way possible to ALWAYS have
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > cursor be the Enlightenment cursor. Most notably in firefox
> > > > (and
> > > > > > > > > > some other applications) the cursor drops back to being
> > just an
> > > > X
> > > > > > > > > > cursor.
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