On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:24:35 +0300 (EEST) Robert Krambovitis <rob...@split.gr> said:
> > From: "Carsten Haitzler" > > To: "Enlightenment users discussion & support" > > <enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Cc: "Robert Krambovitis" > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:39:24 AM > > Subject: Re: [e-users] modules nag... > > > > On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:45:20 +0300 (EEST) Robert Krambovitis > > said: > > > > > You added a nag about unofficial modules ? > > > And the list is hard coded ?! > > > > > > Seriously ? > > > > yup. > > > > > Are you planning on adding a "don't nag about these modules" > > > configuration or > > > whitelist file ? Or at least a way to disable the nag at E start ? > > > or even an "acknowledge, don't tell me again about these modules" > > > button ? > > > > not planning on adding any way to disable it. i'm tired of "when i > > use places > > module e crashes" and "i get random segvs all day - help me" (in the > > end > > convincing them to unload enagage fixed the crashes) etc. > > > > we are doing a release here. trying to fix bugs that are E bugs. not > > the bugs > > of random module X. e-modules-extra modules are "random modules" as > > they mostly > > just have no maintenance. > > > > you're using code from svn and that code is intended to be going > > through QA > > testing and i am encouraging thq QA testing to stop wasting peoples > > time. > > > > be happy i simply didn't just deny the ability to load ANY modules > > other than > > in the whitelist. you still can. you just get a nag. in the same way > > us devs > > have been nagged day after day, week after week, month after month > > about > > modules we don't maintain and we don't care about. i'm very well > > tried of > > saying "do you have any modules loaded not shipped with e?" and then > > people > > sanying no and they end up having these extra modules loaded anyway > > after 5 or > > 10 minutes of back and forth. > > Sure, I get the reason you did it, > but don't you think it's a bit of a kick in the nuts for everyone else, > that doesn't report bugs, just want to use enlightenment on their desktop ? > And all of a sudden, they get "reprimanded" for wanting to see the weather or > cpu usage ? you are using a project direct from its svn development repository... it's FAR better treatment than you get from just about any project's direct head/trunk/master development branch. we are trying to do QA. you can just as well not update and be happy. > Wouldn't it be more prudent to just give a nag when someone enables a module > that's not in the list ? i.e. "Are you sure you want to enable places > module ? It's unsupported and will cause E to crash. Please disable it to > report bugs" etc. This way your unsuspecting user will know which modules are > unsupported, without the nag on every logon ! because people ALREADY have a tonne of problem-causing modules enabled and they need to be reminded that these cause problems. > Not to mention that this will drive off potential module creators! and to do releases you often have to make hard decisions like remove features that just are not ready to ship - that may drive off users. nothing new. this is called QA - by using svn you are part of that process, like it or not. > In any case, it's your call, I just thought someone had to at least make you > think twice about it :) See the results of this poll for a refresher. > http://ngc891.blogdns.net/?p=197 > 49 out of 73 use cpu module, so it's fair to assume that at least 67% of > total users use extra modules... and you still can use the modules. nothing stops you. you just get a single module nag on e start or restart. that is life when you are dealing with someone's trunk development. it doesn't sound like you are interested in helping out and just want to "be a user" in which case what are you doing using our trunk svn? if you want to help out then this is very much letting you know that your problems may be coming from things we will not be fixing. so far over months and years these issues have soaked up DAYS of our time dealing with them. DAYS. it's about time they stop being soaked up and we focus on what is to be released. if you do not want to be part of that you can happily checkout an older revision of e and use that for as long as you want. you are not required to update. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. 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