On 22/10/12 18:40, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote:
> agreed.
> even raster has a good reason for the nag box, cedric's idea sounds 
> reasonable.
> we can remember "i know" thing and show the nag again when e crashes.

I like the "I Know" button - far better than having to click every time.
I also agree that showing the nag screen after a crash to remind us is
also a good thing.

> 
> btw, i haven't seen the white box even my e17 crashed a lot recently.
> what happended?

The non-operation of the WSOD has been noted and filed as a bug (#1662).

Steve.

> 
> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> 
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:24:35 +0300 (EEST) Robert Krambovitis 
>>> <rob...@split.gr>
>>> said:
>>>>> From: "Carsten Haitzler"
>>>>> To: "Enlightenment users discussion & support"
>>>>> <enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Cc: "Robert Krambovitis"
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:39:24 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [e-users] modules nag...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:45:20 +0300 (EEST) Robert Krambovitis
>>>>> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You added a nag about unofficial modules ?
>>>>>> And the list is hard coded ?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously ?
>>>>>
>>>>> yup.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you planning on adding a "don't nag about these modules"
>>>>>> configuration or
>>>>>> whitelist file ? Or at least a way to disable the nag at E start ?
>>>>>> or even an "acknowledge, don't tell me again about these modules"
>>>>>> button ?
>>>>>
>>>>> not planning on adding any way to disable it. i'm tired of "when i
>>>>> use places
>>>>> module e crashes" and "i get random segvs all day - help me" (in the
>>>>> end
>>>>> convincing them to unload enagage fixed the crashes) etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> we are doing a release here. trying to fix bugs that are E bugs. not
>>>>> the bugs
>>>>> of random module X. e-modules-extra modules are "random modules" as
>>>>> they mostly
>>>>> just have no maintenance.
>>>>>
>>>>> you're using code from svn and that code is intended to be going
>>>>> through QA
>>>>> testing and i am encouraging thq QA testing to stop wasting peoples
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>> be happy i simply didn't just deny the ability to load ANY modules
>>>>> other than
>>>>> in the whitelist. you still can. you just get a nag. in the same way
>>>>> us devs
>>>>> have been nagged day after day, week after week, month after month
>>>>> about
>>>>> modules we don't maintain and we don't care about. i'm very well
>>>>> tried of
>>>>> saying "do you have any modules loaded not shipped with e?" and then
>>>>> people
>>>>> sanying no and they end up having these extra modules loaded anyway
>>>>> after 5 or
>>>>> 10 minutes of back and forth.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, I get the reason you did it,
>>>> but don't you think it's a bit of a kick in the nuts for everyone else,
>>>> that doesn't report bugs, just want to use enlightenment on their desktop ?
>>>> And all of a sudden, they get "reprimanded" for wanting to see the weather 
>>>> or
>>>> cpu usage ?
>>>
>>> you are using a project direct from its svn development repository... it's 
>>> FAR
>>> better treatment than you get from just about any project's direct
>>> head/trunk/master development branch. we are trying to do QA. you can just 
>>> as
>>> well not update and be happy.
>>
>> Or he can update again. I really thing having this popup always there
>> is rude. So now, if you say "I know" E17 will remember that list of
>> module and not barf about it again. But if you get a crash, the white
>> box will tell you to first retry without any module. I think it's a
>> way better treatment than before.
>> --
>> Cedric BAIL
>>
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