Thank you all, for all this data.
I shall build it myself so...
But I do not like that...

PC

Le 17/02/2014 18:30, rob a écrit :
> On 17/02/14 15:37, Pierre Couderc wrote:
>> Le 17/02/2014 16:10, rob a écrit :
>>> On 17/02/14 13:53, Pierre Couderc wrote:
>>>> Le 17/02/2014 13:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit :
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:43:14 +0100 Pierre Couderc <pie...@couderc.eu> 
>>>>> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 17/02/2014 07:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit :
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:32:43 +0100 Pierre Couderc <pie...@couderc.eu> 
>>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 17/02/2014 00:28, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:23:24 +0100 Pierre Couderc <pie...@couderc.eu>
>>>>>>>>> said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 16/02/2014 23:02, Massimo Maiurana a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Couderc, il 16/02/2014 20:23, ha scritto:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there an howto to install a minimum e17 on debian jessie ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried to install debian jessie without desktop environment, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>> add xorg packet then e17.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It works but I have no wifi network, I have installed connman, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>>>> not see it in enlightenment.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is the connman module loaded? And is it added to a shelf?
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on jessie and i use connman without problems, I even have 
>>>>>>>>>>> econnman
>>>>>>>>>>> installed but that is not needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mmm, sorry I am new to enlightenment, "loaded"...?
>>>>>>>>>> If you want say that I find it in :
>>>>>>>>>>          ps -aux
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is.
>>>>>>>>>> But I do not know what to do with it...
>>>>>>>>>> And when I start enlightenment, I do not see anything that could be
>>>>>>>>>> could be a networkd manager.
>>>>>>>>>> Ans sorry, I am not well sure what is a shelf.
>>>>>>>>> settings -> modules ... under "system" ... connection manager. is it
>>>>>>>>> loaded? (on. enabled. blue light...)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you. No, it is not. I appears in psa -aux | grep connmon but not
>>>>>>>> in enlightenment.
>>>>>>>> I surely miss a way to inform e17 that connmon is present.
>>>>>>> then load it. connman in ps is just the connman daemon. modules don't 
>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>> process name/id - they are part of the enlightenment process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, but this is the problem.  how do I do that ?
>>>>>> I am looking for a basic howto or documentation  or reference about
>>>>>> enlightenment, I find many partial pages, but nothing structured.
>>>>>> Thank you for your patience
>>>>> there's a big load button below the list of modules... under system. 
>>>>> select the
>>>>> module - then load (or unload). it doesn't require a document to tel you 
>>>>> how.
>>>>> it's right there in the gui.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, so if do "settings -> modules->system", I should see "connection
>>>> manager".
>>>> No I see battry, temperature, Dbus extension, (...) but nothing like
>>>> "connction manager".
>>>> Maybe it is linked to https://phab.enlightenment.org/T804 ?
>>>>
>>> See debian bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=593366
>>>
>>> rob
>>>
>> Thank you, Rob, so I conclude that e17 cannot work on debian , or that I
>> have to build it myself, or wait it is more mature?
>>
> E17 is old. If you want to build E yourself the source code is available
> at http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en
>
> The debian packages to install prior to building it yourself are listed
> here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=31978123
>
> Build in the following order:
>
> EFL
> Evas Generic Loaders
> Emotion Generic Players
> Elementary
> Enlightenment
>
> then Terminology and Econnman
>
> rob
>
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