2015-08-09 12:33 GMT+02:00 Daniel Christopher Würl <[email protected]>:
> Am Sun, 9 Aug 2015 14:37:26 +1000 > schrieb David Seikel <[email protected]>: > > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 12:35:56 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 03:19:07 +0200 Daniel Christopher Würl > > > <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > as a long-term e16 user who migrated to fvwm some eight months > > > > ago, I'm toying with the idea of installing e19. > > > > > > > > Since I currently run debian 8 this would be a time consuming > > > > task, so I'd like to ask some questions before I spend some hours > > > > in vein ;) > > > > > > > > How stable is the API / theming API ? > > > > I really love to create my own themes, but I'm not motivated to > > > > fix them over every minor revision. Same goes for EFL, I'm > > > > perfectly happy to hack together some tools I need, but I'm not > > > > ready to adapt them to a moving target all the time. > > > > > > > > How long does a release of enlightenment "live" ? > > > > > > there were some minor breaks (little things changed) between e17 and > > > e18. we're keeping things stable since then though theme expands and > > > thus there are new things to theme if you want a complete look, so > > > over time it requires work anyway to keep up. > > > > > > > Mostly part of above questions, but having to compile the whole > > > > efl / enlightenment stack every other month would be a bit > > > > off-putting. > > > > > > compiling efl is easy. if you bother once to write the procedure in > > > a script and then just re-run it every time. the script > > > clones/updates git repos and walks through n dirs re-building each > > > one maybe with specific options. if you bother doing it just once > > > for yourself, then everything after that is gravy. what that script > > > has may vary from person to person, distro to distro, but the raw > > > content of it is on the enlightenment.org docs on how to get/build > > > e and efl. i scripted my builds so long ago i'ts not funny. i just > > > don't get this "oh but it's SOOOOOOOOOO hard" line. it's an excuse > > > for not having simply written down the commands in a script for > > > yourself ONCE. i just use my scripts and for me it's: > > > > > > svup.sh > > > rbe.sh > > > > > > (yes my svup.sh script was from svn days - i modified it for git - i > > > have 2 as i want to update separately to building). > > > > Many of the EFL developers have their own build script in git. I > > have one in the Enlightenment git at > > > > > https://git.enlightenment.org/admin/devs.git/tree/developers/onefang/build_efl.lua > > > > Which tries to compile most of the stuff we host in git. Other > > developers have their build scripts in the admin/devs area of the git > > as well. > > > > > the biggest bit of work is getting your dependencies installed > > > (once). that is the real work. not rebuilding or updating. > > > > Yep, a build script wont help with that, as it's generally only done > > once. Most of the dependencies are listed on the > > https://www.enlightenment.org/download page that includes basic build > > instructions. > > > > Ok, > thanks for the explanation ;) > Aside from the file manager everything sounds good so far, so I'll give > it a try ;D > The places module (https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/emodules/places/) lets you choose your preferred filemanager to run when clicking on devices :) Indeed the more time-consuming operation when installing efl are the dependencies, this is the list of packages I use in debian8, maybe it's not really up-to-date, but it should do the biggest work: build-essential automake autoconf libtool autopoint gettext check gdb valgrind doxygen libpam-dev libdbus-1-dev libpulse-dev libsndfile-dev libudev-dev libblkid-dev libmount-dev libx11-dev libx11-xcb-dev libxcursor-dev libxrender-dev libxrandr-dev libxfixes-dev libxdamage-dev libxcomposite-dev libxss-dev libxp-dev libxext-dev libxinerama-dev libxkbfile-dev libxtst-dev libxcb1-dev libxcb-shape0-dev libxcb-keysyms1-dev libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev libfribidi-dev libgif-dev libjpeg62-turbo-dev libpng-dev libtiff-dev zlib1g-dev librsvg2-dev libraw-dev libluajit-5.1-dev libbullet-dev libspectre-dev libpoppler-dev libpoppler-private-dev libcurl4-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev libssl-dev libgl1-mesa-dev gstreamer1.0-libav libgstreamer1.0-dev libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-dev gstreamer1.0-plugins-good gstreamer1.0-plugins-base python-dev python3-dev python-sphinx python3-sphinx cheers > > Best wishes, > Daniel > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
