On 06/03/2016 03:27 AM, Larry Wyble wrote:
>
> No matter what I do in the ibar I can't make new application
> launchers/icons in the ibar. I put in the name, the icon name,
> the executable name, hit apply and then exit and nothing
> happens.  What do I have to do to make new app launchers on
> the ibar??  This shouldn't be this hard. This has been this way for
> multiple versions and never fixed or EXPLAINED        in this mailing
> list. Why? What the hell does it take to get this so a regular user can
> set up a proper desktop the way they want it? What use is the menu
> items "ibar > create new icon"?
> I have even made my own .desktop files to try to get the launchers on
> the ibar but enlightenment won't pick them up out of the directory.
>
> Also I have tried for the last 3 versions to get help with my volume
> keys on the keyboard but so far no one has bothered to answer my
> questions on that.
>
> This is supposed to be the enlightenment mailing list where help is
> supposed to be available but so far, even with the developer being on
> this list, I have yet to get any help with this desktop. I just continue
> to upgrade with each version that comes out hoping that something
> changes and improves but nothing changes or improves, just the same old
> problems, same old bugs, same old crap. This would be a great desktop
> if it worked properly but it seems the only things that are important
> is getting Wayland working. Yeah buddy let's work on wayland and screw
> the rest of the desktop.
>
> Here's what we got for the last upgrade announcement:
>
> HIGHLIGHTS
>    * Greatly improved Wayland support
>    * New gadget infrastructure
>    * Wizard improvements
>    * Video backgrounds
>
> CHANGES SINCE BETA
>    * Wayland DMA buffer support
>    * Wayland session recovery
>    * New DRM subsystem
>    * Various crash fixes/additions
>
> 50%  Wayland announcements, which really doesn't make a tinkers damn in
> the usability of the Enlightenment desktop. 50% Wayland and the rest
> of the upgrades don't make another tinker's damn, DRM subsystem, no
> help, Gadgets improvements, no help, Wizard improvements, what's that?
> Video backgrounds, no help.
> Let's fix the basic usability of the desktop.
>
>
> Yeah, I know, I'm an asshole. But after years and years of trying to
> use something that is a major fail and trying and trying to get help
> and seeing another fail, I'm at the point where I'm truly frustrated.
> Yeah, I know, it's free and so do you and since this has been
> distributed free for so long I come to the conclusion that you may want
> to know what a normal, loyal user's impression is of the desktop.
> I have been using Enlightenment since before E17 and I have upgraded
> every version since and I have always ended up going back to e16, But
> I'm at the point where I have to leave E16 because Terminology doesn't
> work properly with E16 now because of terminology looking for some
> crap that E16 doesn't have. I get errors and can't start it in full
> screen mode.
>
> Well, you can kick me off the mailing list and scream profanities at
> me now and tell me what an asshole I am for expressing my opinions.
> But that's life in the slow lane.
> Thanks
>

Can you give an example of what steps you are taking to create the 
launcher, what application you are trying to launch and what errors you 
are receiving?

Otherwise I don't know if I can provide any help.

Kind regards,

Eric




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