On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 03:07:41 +0000 Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com> said:

> Also, the comment that was made about Ubuntu and Fedora not updating meson
> (or any other apps as was stated) is very misleading. Both Fedora and
> Ubuntu stay well up to date and keep their packages very up to date.  The
> meson version included in both distros stable repos work just fine to build
> e, efl, and e apps using meson. No need to force the rolling release point
> of view there. Yes debian is usually way behind, and yes way behind ubuntu
> and fedora too, so not surprised there.

if you install ubuntu 16.04 then 16.04 will not update meson. if you do
apt-get update/upgrades it won't. it'll get bugfixes and security fixes. you
need to actually go alter your package repo url's to upgrade. that is what i
mean. you can upgrade to 17.04, then 18.04 etc.. but it requires explicitly
changing repositories to upgrade, unlike a rolling distro where you don't change
your repos and doing an update+upgrade just upgrades everything that has been
updated in the repo since you last did this.

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018, 9:52 PM Dave <d...@flex.com.au> wrote:
> 
> >  In the year 2018, of the month of April, on the 19th day, Carsten
> > Haitzler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is Meson that neglected in some places? I had sort of assumed it would
> > > > be under heavy support as it's become so popular.
> > >
> > > no - it's that meson has been changing a lot of late i'd say as it gets
> > more
> > > adoption and more projects find bugs and shortcomings in it and meson
> > adds
> > > features to match thus needing a very up to date version. if you use
> > debian
> > > (stable), ubuntu, fedora etc. you will not find them UPGRADING meson or
> > really
> > > any package. only providing bugfix/security fix packages (a new revision
> > of the
> > > same version of the older pkg with the security or bug fix). they
> > probably
> > > focus most on security fixes and only the big bug fixes may get a fix.
> > if the
> > > fix is to upgrade the pkg they probably wont do it.
> > >
> > > that's why a rolling release distro (arch, gentoo, suse tumbleweed,
> > debian
> > > SID/testing etc.) will stay up to date as it's always ipdating and
> > upgrading
> > > all packages based on when upsterams release them.
> >
> >  Just a note that Debian also has a "backports" repo, which contains some
> > updated binaries for the stable release.  Meson is one such package.  The
> > backported version is a little behind testing/unstable, but is still much
> > more recent than stable.
> >
> >  https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/meson
> >
> >  I use testing (buster) myself, and it compiles terminology 1.2 fine.
> >
> >  Cheers,
> >  dave.k
> >
> >
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