On Tuesday, 24 July 2018 10:43:06 BST Pierre Couderc wrote: > On 07/24/2018 11:26 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 08:18:49 +0200 Pierre Couderc <pie...@couderc.eu> said: > >> On 07/24/2018 06:06 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >>> actually no. this is where users and many toolkits and apps get it > >>> totally > >>> wrong. so you specify font size. what about icons and other elements > >>> then? > >>> that is precisely why efl just uses a "scale" factor. a single number > >>> (1.0 > >>> being the default, 2.0 == 2x as big etc.) where everything that can > >>> scale is multiplied by that value, and that value is farmed out to the > >>> user to decide what works best for them. enlightenment has an option to > >>> calculate the scale factor based on dpi (with a base dpi of X == 1.0) > >>> using the real physical dpi to do it. this is one of the first > >>> questions enlightenment asks in its wizard giving you a whole bunch of > >>> options to choose from with previews so you pick what looks right. but > >>> this only affects efl/e. > >>> > >>> another way users/toolkits do this is "set dpi". you DO NOT SET dpi. dpi > >>> is > >>> a property o the screen (and its current resolution). SETTING it to get > >>> something to scale up is NOT right. now, if you do, apps that want to > >>> actually display something at a specific physical size on the screen > >>> (15x33mm for example) can't because dpi is now wrong. dpi is directly > >>> related to screen size, and querying screen size is now no longer a way > >>> to > >>> figure out what kind of screen you might have (~32"+ tv? desktop > >>> (~19-30")?, laptop (~10-17"), tablet (~7-10")? phone(~3-7") etc. (yes. > >>> things play guessorama based on these kinds of things to alter behaviour > >>> to > >>> fit that kind of device, but if you fake dpi then these guesses are > >>> going > >>> to be wrong). > >> > >> I fully agree and I illustrate it : my laptop is 14'' and 1920x1080, and > >> I have a second screen 24'' and 1920x1080 !! > >> So "scale" factor is a good solution. But... > >> It does not work : the scale factor should be different for each screen. > >> There is a "Scale" factor in the "Screen Setup" but it has no effect > >> (in last git version). > >> What do I miss ? > > > > actually... this is possible. :) with efl+enlightenment it is. e will send > > messages to the window to change scale factor *IF* you set up the screen > > with a different scale factor in the screen setup dialog... the problem > > is this messes up enlightenment right now as scale factor is "per > > process" as opposed to "per parent object" (well actually it is per > > parent object but the way it's implemented is problematic for e as it has > > a single window spanning both screens...). check the screen setup dialog > > under "use profile". check it then you can even select a whole different > > config profile for apps on that screen AND optionally a custom scale > > factor... :) ... now drag window from screen to screen.. :) > > > > but this seems to have broken in current git though... it DID work when i > > wrote this support... > > np, I wait and buy a magnifying glass...
In an ideal world e's scaling would translate across each application's toolkit, widgets, typefaces, etc. As Carsten said, today it doesn't. The Gnome/Plasma DEs are self-integrated so their applications can be adjusted to fit the user's preferences, but unfortunately their environment variables don't always read across: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ Qt#Configuration_of_Qt5_apps_under_environments_other_than_KDE_Plasma I use a lot of Plasma applications, but unfortunately I can't adjust their sizes and styles using qt5ct. Something sets up QT_STYLE_OVERRIDE=gtk2, which I then have to unset manually before I run qt5ct. In addition, Qt applications icons are not loading at start up, although I can set them once using systemsettings5. Restarting the application ends up with no icons again. :-/ It's a pain. :-( -- Regards, Mick ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
