Thanks Lou. We've tried:
- nagging emails
- witholding expenses
- witholding the whole dept's expenses if one person doesn't do their
timesheets - nothing like peer pressure!
- rewarding people who fill them in
- when we used to use MailSweeper, we used to quarantine all their inbound
and outbound email - every sent or received email would send them an email
saying "this email has been quarantined - contact IT to release it"
- years ago we tried blocking internet access at the firewall for those
users, but with DHCP, it was a bit of a faff.
- we also tried proxies etc and limiting web access (in a much more manual
way that wasn't really workable)

None of these things work effectively - some of them don't work
cross-platform - and most of them just mean someone other than the people
who didn't fill in their timesheets has to do a load of admin which isn't
ideal.

IM might be marginally better than emails, but we outsource email to Google
(for about 12,000 people - works excellently) and users have the ability to
block certain senders, so those nags would quickly get silenced.

I think Brian's solution is best - it'll only do it after a few days of
outstanding timesheets - possibly even a week, so people can easily prevent
it from happening if they keep reasonably up to date.

(Thanks Richard for your variation on the suggestion too - redirecting all
their web traffic will certainly give them an incentive).

Thanks all,

Nick.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Lou H. Goddard <[email protected]> wrote:

> It sounds a little user-hostile to chop someone's network access in the
> middle of a session.  You may end up with a lot of angry users telling
> their supervisors that they couldn't get task X, Y, or Z done because IT
> killed their session upon re-auth.
>
> Do they have access to IM?  You could lock down the settings on the IM
> client to make new IMs pop and take window focus in the GUI.  Then, have
> some program on the backend check timesheet status.  If the timesheet isn't
> filled out send an IM to the user every five minutes.
>
> This will nag them into doing it without doing something overly negative
> to the user.
>
> Thanks,
> Lou Goddard
> Network Engineer
> 302-552-8053
> [email protected]
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *Nick Allen <[email protected]>
> *Sent: *Thu, 4/5/2012 9:48am
> *To: *Enterasys Customer Mailing List <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: [enterasys] Timesheets...
>
>
> Good plan Brian - we'll have to give that a go. The AD group + policy with
> re-auth sounds best.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nick.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Brian Anderson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> A script could be built to look at a user in a database, if they haven’t
>> put in the time for the day then drop them in an AD group.  If your
>> switches are set to re-auth the ports every x minutes or so, you can setup
>> a policy with that AD group to move their port to a locked down policy.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Another idea would be to query the database, and disable their AD
>> account, however if they are dependent on AD to do their time, they would
>> have to be re-enabled to do time and might ‘neglect’ to enter time.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> With the locked down policy, you could cut off internet or any resource
>> except for the time application, perhaps redirect their browser to the time
>> app if it is web based? J  And when they did their time, your scripted
>> job would re-query the database (every 30 min let’s say) and pull them out
>> of that group, and port would re-auth and they would get  their access back.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> If you have NAC, perhaps something creative could be done there.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Nick Allen [mailto:[email protected]]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:34 AM
>> *To:* Enterasys Customer Mailing List
>> *Subject:* [enterasys] Timesheets...****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> A slightly odd question - but does anyone have any kind of policy applied
>> that restricts network access depending on whether they've filled their
>> timesheets in.****
>>
>> So maybe something that looks the user up in a database, or - perhaps
>> less useful - tests for AD group membership?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I'm sure it's possible, but interested to hear any solutions - even if
>> they're not specifically policy related - or even Enterasys related.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I work for a creative agency where timesheets are required, but people
>> are awful at filling them in.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> We've had various carrot and stick approaches over the years but nothing
>> that works for everyone, or for every OS - we have a mix of Mac (90%) and
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>> ** **
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