Wow.  It looks like you've already tried all of the 'soft' methods.  Good luck 
and hopefully you can share the solution when you find it.

Thanks,

Lou Goddard

Network Engineer

302-552-8053

[email protected]

From: Nick Allen <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, 4/5/2012 10:47am
To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [enterasys] Timesheets...

Thanks Lou. We've tried:- nagging emails- witholding expenses

- witholding the whole dept's expenses if one person doesn't do their 
timesheets - nothing like peer pressure!- rewarding people who fill them in

- when we used to use MailSweeper, we used to quarantine all their inbound and 
outbound email - every sent or received email would send them an email saying 
"this email has been quarantined - contact IT to release it"

- years ago we tried blocking internet access at the firewall for those users, 
but with DHCP, it was a bit of a faff.- we also tried proxies etc and limiting 
web access (in a much more manual way that wasn't really workable)


None of these things work effectively - some of them don't work cross-platform 
- and most of them just mean someone other than the people who didn't fill in 
their timesheets has to do a load of admin which isn't ideal.


IM might be marginally better than emails, but we outsource email to Google 
(for about 12,000 people - works excellently) and users have the ability to 
block certain senders, so those nags would quickly get silenced.


I think Brian's solution is best - it'll only do it after a few days of 
outstanding timesheets - possibly even a week, so people can easily prevent it 
from happening if they keep reasonably up to date.


(Thanks Richard for your variation on the suggestion too - redirecting all 
their web traffic will certainly give them an incentive).


Thanks all,
Nick.

On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Lou H. Goddard <[email protected]> wrote:

It sounds a little user-hostile to chop someone's network access in the middle 
of a session.  You may end up with a lot of angry users telling their 
supervisors that they couldn't get task X, Y, or Z done because IT killed their 
session upon re-auth.



Do they have access to IM?  You could lock down the settings on the IM client 
to make new IMs pop and take window focus in the GUI.  Then, have some program 
on the backend check timesheet status.  If the timesheet isn't filled out send 
an IM to the user every five minutes.



This will nag them into doing it without doing something overly negative to the 
user.

Thanks,

Lou Goddard

Network Engineer

302-552-8053

[email protected]

From: Nick Allen <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, 4/5/2012 9:48am


To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [enterasys] Timesheets...

Good plan Brian - we'll have to give that a go. The AD group + policy with 
re-auth sounds best.


Cheers,

Nick.



On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Brian Anderson <[email protected]> 
wrote:



A script could be built to look at a user in a database, if they haven’t put in 
the time for the day then drop them in an AD group.  If your switches are set 
to re-auth the ports every x minutes or so, you can setup a policy with that AD 
group to move their port to a locked down policy.  



 
Another idea would be to query the database, and disable their AD account, 
however if they are dependent on AD to do their time, they would have to be 
re-enabled to do time and might ‘neglect’ to enter time.



 
With the locked down policy, you could cut off internet or any resource except 
for the time application, perhaps redirect their browser to the time app if it 
is web based? J  And when they did their time, your scripted job would re-query 
the database (every 30 min let’s say) and pull them out of that group, and port 
would re-auth and they would get  their access back.



 
If you have NAC, perhaps something creative could be done there.



 


From: Nick Allen [mailto:[email protected]] 



Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 5:34 AM
To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List
Subject: [enterasys] Timesheets...
 

Hi,
 
A slightly odd question - but does anyone have any kind of policy applied that 
restricts network access depending on whether they've filled their timesheets 
in.



So maybe something that looks the user up in a database, or - perhaps less 
useful - tests for AD group membership?



 
I'm sure it's possible, but interested to hear any solutions - even if they're 
not specifically policy related - or even Enterasys related.



 
I work for a creative agency where timesheets are required, but people are 
awful at filling them in.



 
We've had various carrot and stick approaches over the years but nothing that 
works for everyone, or for every OS - we have a mix of Mac (90%) and PC (10%).



 
Thanks,
 



Nick.
 
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