It's still simple. Security is to eliminate all possible issues without damaging the working power. And to deal with the risk remaining. The old "no risk no fun" is true because of the impossibility of total security with working systems.
Am 10.12.2015 um 22:31 schrieb Jim Weill: > I'm no expert, but security is not a zero-sum game where you either have > it or not. > > Congratulations if your organization produces their own in-house apps, > hardware and OS with security built in from the start, and timely > patching for all problems that arise. The rest of us have to rely on > 3rd party vendors over which we have no influence. > > jim > > On 12/10/2015 1:10 PM, Eric Periard wrote: >> That same mindset is what caused the Ashley Madison leak to begin with... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Enterprise [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Klaus Hartnegg >> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 2:11 PM >> To: [email protected]' >> Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox ESR 38.4 - Java Plugin Problem >> >> Am 10.12.2015 um 16:40 schrieb Eric Periard: >>> Security is not an option in your organization? >> Nobody wants a secure computer. Your computers are not secure either. >> Because computers are only secure if all cables are unplugged. >> >> A computer which allows work to be done is always a compromise. >> >> For example a computer center here until a few weeks ago told us that >> SAP can only be reached via a Java applet. Good luck trying to talk >> Juniper into rewriting the way to connect to that terminal server. >> This left us with no choice. >> >> If you make sure that Java in the browser is only active for the >> applets on your intranet, then this is theoretically safe. Except that >> is is not, because Java until recently could be tricked to run applets >> from non-whitelisted domains. But even so there is still the >> ClickToRun feature of Firefox. >> >> If Mozilla decides that crashing is better than leaking memory, then >> organizations can be forced to stay on the previous version. A >> perfectly secure Firefox can cause people to switch to other less >> secure browsers. >> _______________________________________________ >> Enterprise mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise or send an email to >> [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe" >> _______________________________________________ >> Enterprise mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, please visit >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise or send an email to >> [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe" > > > _______________________________________________ > Enterprise mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise > > To unsubscribe from this list, please visit > https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/enterprise or send an email to > [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe" -- Dirk Schneider Landeskriminalamt Mecklenburg-Vorpommern Dezernat 12-3 / Systemadministration Retgendorfer Str. 09 19067 Rampe Tel: +49 3866 64-1233 Fax: +49 3866 64-1250 Mail: [email protected]
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