That's great to hear! Glad that new dialog helped.

Mike

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 4:06 PM Eddie Rowe <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Sorry, after I downgraded to older Firefox ESR 68 releases, I upgraded to
> Firefox ESR 78 to see what it did.  68 just displayed a blank page while 78
> displayed the error that I posted.  I reviewed the web console as part of
> my troubleshooting and there were definitely third party cookies trying to
> load in the frame which we have rejected since 2019.  The vendor who
> supports the app told me that they reject all cookies on their PCs and they
> don’t have any issues using their own tool internally.  So they insisted it
> could not be a cookie issue and silly me listened to them when all evidence
> pointed to cookies.  I am suspecting that the site that is opened in the
> frame must have updated their web site/server.  I whitelisted the origin
> and this resolved the issue, but I am still scratching my head at why it
> happened out of the blue.
>
>
>
> Kudos to the person who added the dialog in Firefox 78 since it helps to
> point you towards the cause for those who still have not discovered the
> wonders of the Web Console since it came be a bit terse to read, but
> generally points you in the right direction.
>
>
>
> BTW, I did turn off all tracking protection using the GUI and clicked on
> the option to reload all tabs, but this did not resolve the issue during
> troubleshooting.  I had to close Firefox and relaunch in order to get the
> site to load before I put the third party cookies on the exception list.
>
>
>
> *From:* Enterprise <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mike
> Kaply
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2020 6:46 PM
> *To:* Wes Kocher <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* enterprise <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Can Mozilla change settings like
> Google?
>
>
>
> That error message you are seeing doesn't exist in Firefox 68. Can you
> verify the version?
>
>
>
> That change was made in this bug:
>
>
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1461195
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugzilla.mozilla.org_show-5Fbug.cgi-3Fid-3D1461195&d=DwMFaQ&c=2WwxlqHD_9GeHFEUsOHZXg&r=a0pF-r4VjZCyzB4zxbRDcONPyw-KRRoDiBPd4lDRky8&m=0xCycvWizUMXoArAiUoI5nw-x6ZJj2LpLm_am-kriH4&s=s4QemWn3j8U63Nfrcb9Gs1LQiaAbP3kCLsw1Tt83Tp4&e=>
>
>
>
> and is only in Firefox 78 and later.
>
>
>
> But previously, the page would still have not loaded, you would have just
> not seen the option to open the site in a new window.
>
>
>
> Can you also turn off tracking protection and see if that's causing it?
>
>
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:06 PM Wes Kocher <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> They can change prefs remotely via SHIELD studies, but I don't think
> that's what's happening here. This feels like something got confused with
> the site's content security policy or the x-frame-options headers, making
> Firefox unable to display the embedded content.
>
>
>
> Opening the web console (ctrl-shift-k) and loading the page should log
> something about the content failing to load, or the network monitor
> (ctrl-shift-e) might show the request for the embedded content being
> rejected, and one or both of those should give a hint of what's really
> happening.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 3:38 PM Eddie Rowe <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Can Mozilla change any part of Firefox remotely like Google can do with
> Chrome as documented in
> https://cloud.google.com/docs/chrome-enterprise/policies/?policy=ChromeVariations
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cloud.google.com_docs_chrome-2Denterprise_policies_-3Fpolicy-3DChromeVariations&d=DwMFaQ&c=2WwxlqHD_9GeHFEUsOHZXg&r=a0pF-r4VjZCyzB4zxbRDcONPyw-KRRoDiBPd4lDRky8&m=0xCycvWizUMXoArAiUoI5nw-x6ZJj2LpLm_am-kriH4&s=hqhTPkny4g0XztcJRXdyySnS28YPvc1D_Htt3ApE3yQ&e=>
> ?
>
>
>
> I have an internal application that interfaces with a third-party vendor
> inside what I assume is a frame that has not been upgraded or patched since
> May (it’s an appliance so we upgrade the appliance to get OS patches).  All
> of the sudden the data that should display has stopped – the pages that
> have this data from a third party vendor are not used on a regular basis.
>   I downgraded from Firefox ESR 68.10 to prior versions that I KNOW worked
> a few weeks ago and the behavior is the same.  Firefox ESR 78.0.2 displays
> an error message where there is blank space which makes me suspect Mozilla
> has changed how Firefox ESR 68.x releases behave since nothing has changed
> with our policies.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Eddie Rowe*
>
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>
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